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Radio Liberty: "Ukrainian Parliament Bans Communist, Nazi Propaganda"

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  1. litwin

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    Its very expected move of Ukrainian Parliament with though how many people Ukrainian those both ideologies have killed , and still killing in Crimea, Donbass. When the other European countries will to follow Ukrainian example?

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    so your against freedom of assembly and speech now? sounds like a EU dictatorship back by the nwo
     
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    i am for it, but i am against people who dance on the crops of cannibalized Ukrainian children. your friends from Lugandon, Krem, and Donpon 25 years have made jokes about holodomor but today they are not joking anymore , they have own children who are hungry ... question: do you believe in holodomor ?
     
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    ps

    http://www.unian.net/politics/10659...yut-vse-tovaryi-s-sovetskimi-nazvaniyami.html
     
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    Kharkov today:clapping: 3 Soviet Communist leaders down
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a saying that a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Well a Nazi by any other name would still be a Nazi...so let's cut out the garbage. A Nazi is a Nazi is a Nazi..no matter the symbol or name.

    Ukraine appointed Yarosh the head of the murderous Nazi Right Sector into a high position, when he is wanted by Interpol for his atrocities, and now they're trying to cover it all up...and even comparing the Nazis to communism. But then they are stupid. They should be worshipping Lenin instead of Bandera, if it wasn't for him Ukraine wouldn't exist. But that's beyond their comprehension. All they know is...


    RUSSIA'S TO BLAME...[​IMG]
     
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    [video=youtube;0XQU_UEcl5U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=0XQU_UEcl5U[/video]

    that's why for the Ukrainians the fascists and communists are the same evil, i can even say communists were even worst
     
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    It's complicated issue with its cons and pros. There are good people among communists too believe it or not. They are all wrong off course but it doesn't mean they should be stripped of their civil rights.
     
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    they always can move to Transdniester or Moscovy , or start to respect victims of soviet terror
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    Even at the darkest years of the cold war communist party wasn't banned in America. That is what makes America so great. The fact that freedom is for everybody. But I'm all for continuation of Leninofall. There is still a crazy number of the monuments of this dictator. They should go.
     
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    did American Communists created The Holodomor which killed 20% of American population or, killed 60% of all writers (intellectuals) just in 1 year?

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    Seems like a bit of a Ukrainian shell game to me - & just more Litwin Bull-bung
    .... neither of whom seems to know what their left & right hands are doing

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    Kiev Becomes
    The First European Capital To Openly Glorify A Criminal Ideology
    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150410/1020700318.html

    Ukraine officially recognized notorious ultranationalist groups, active
    in the 20th century, as freedom fighters, meaning Kiev authorities have chosen
    neo-Nazism as state ideology, a prominent Polish political scientist said.

    "Kiev authorities are forging their historic identity, openly citing
    neo-Nazism as an inspiration. Ukraine seems to be the only country in Europe to do
    this in a blatant manner, without being ashamed of its detestable past."

    According to the analyst, remarks made by Ukrainian politicians and members of
    parliament prove that all this is official. "Neo-Nazism is becoming a new state ideology
    in Ukraine," Mateusz Piskorski, head of the European Center for Geopolitical Analysis,
    told RIA Novosti.

    The analyst underlined that no other ideology has so much hatred and poison towards
    neighboring nations, namely the Russians and the Poles, but also the Jews and the Armenians.

    "Kiev has become the first European capital to openly glorify criminal ideology."

    On Thursday, the Ukrainian parliament passed a bill recognizing anyone who fought
    for Ukraine's independence from November 1917 until August 24, 1991, as part
    of formal, informal, underground, military or guerilla groups, a freedom fighter.
    These people are entitled to social benefits under the new law.

    Organizations covered by the controversial legislation include the Ukrainian Insurgent
    Army (UPA) and the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) that collaborated
    with Nazi Germany and are responsible for countless atrocities.
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    Results Of UN Vote
    On The Resolution To Combat The Glorification Of Nazi Ideology

    The United States, Canada & Ukraine are the only countries to Vote specifically against the Resolution

    http://sputniknews.com/infographics/20141125/1015153484.html

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    Litwin seems ever eager to equate the present Government in Moscow with Hitler & the Nazi's
    The FACTS say otherwise perhaps Litwin, & those in charge of the Governments of - USA,
    .... Canada the Ukrainian should have a close look into the mirror & re-evaluate their position
    ...... in this regard - as Right now they are looking a little inconsistent and very stupid & more than
    ..................................................................................... a measure of good Old Fashioned NAZI
    .......................................................................................................................... Seig Heil Litwin !
    ............................................................................................................................................... :roflol:


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    Can't believe they were still up after almost 25 years!
     
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    me too, people and ideology of those responsible for death of maybe 50 millions people....i will be not surprise if its possible to find in Ukraine/Moscovy the sculptures of people like Vasily Blokhin or Vassili Kononov...

     
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    [video=youtube;UNfm_ffI9ts]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNfm_ffI9ts[/video]
    use option subtitles
     
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    name war crimes of Stepan_Bandera , but i am 100% sure you will not find this info in your bot manual http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
     
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    [video=youtube;H9e9B5NsA_M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=H9e9B5NsA_M[/video]
    Published on Mar 26, 2014

    Narrated by Meryl Streep, this award-winning historical documentary examines the Stalinist purges and terror in the former Soviet Union during the 1930's and 40's, when an estimated twenty million people lost their lives - some in labor camps, others starved in state-induced famine, and many others executed for "crimes against the state."

    The 1917 Bolshevik (or Communist) Revolution laid the foundation for the later collectivization and subjugation of the peasant classes, along with the systematic quota-driven elimination of those who where perceived to be a threat to Stalin's policies. This film contains many survivor and eyewitness accounts of the resulting torture, executions, and mass burials. The film ends with current efforts to document the atrocities and the slow process of bringing the guilty to justice.

    - Ukrainians killed by Soviet secret police in 1945.
    - In the 1930s and 1940s millions of people were killed by the Soviet state. Their bodies still lie hidden in mass graves. Only since the breakup of the Soviet Union have people been able to search for these graves, exhume the remains and give them a proper burial.
    - 0:38 Mass slaughter in Ukraine reached all levels of society and altered life in every Ukrainian town and village.
    - 0:58 600 families were repressed, deported, and sentenced. Ukrainian villages Dorohosil and Vyltychaty.
    - 2:20 Black and white footage from 1930s Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, Lenin's Tomb. No fewer than 20 million people lost their lives.
    - 2:45 Death by labour camps and state induced famines. More than 1.5 million people were executed for crimes against the state.
    - 3:07, 23:04 Zbigniew Brzezinski, Former U.S. National Security Advisor
    - 4:05 Roman Szporluk, Historian Harvard University
    - 5:08 October 25, 1917 Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks take control of the Winter Palace.
    - 6:05 Robert Conquest, Historian Stanford University
    - 9:00 Greatest resistance from Ukrainian peasants and villages. The Song of the Harvestors of Ukraine.
    - 10:00 Ukraine was particularly dangerous for Stalin
    - 12:20 NKVD, Nikolai Yezhov
    - 13:14 Mykola Holushko, Former KGB Official
    - 15:00 Olha Ern, Lidia Raevska
    - 18:35 Old colour footage of Kyiv, Ukraine. Chekists Block
    - 18:55 Les Taniuk, Theatre Director
    - 19:52 Former NKVD headquarters Vinnystia, Ukraine
    - 20:00 Mykola Lastovetsky
    - 21:27 Demianiv Laz
    - 21:45 Mykhailo Teodorovych
    - 21:53 Stepan Fedyk
    - 22:24 Bohdan Fedyk
    - 23:23 Most interesting feature of the terror was the quota system
    - 26:22 Olenka Kozaniwsky, former prisoner, Lviv. Zamarstyniv prison
    - 27:39 Bohdan Kozaniwsky, former prisoner, Lviv.
    - 28:28 All the Ukrainian girls were beaten the same way as men.
    - 32:32 Black and white footage Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler.
    - 33:10 In June 1941 Nazi Germany invades Soviet Union with 3 million men and thousands of tanks. Ukraine World War Two. Russia World War Two.
    - 34:45 Footage of dead bodies killed in Soviet prisons and jails.
    - 36:01 Vasyl Novoselytsky
    - 36:22 Mykola Kudelia
    - 36:47 Ukrainian Nationalist Organization
    - 40:02 Ukrainians enter Lutsk prison.
    - 40:34 Old colour footage of Lviv, Ukraine.
    - 40:44 Ihor Kalynets, Andrii Holyi
    - 42:11 Iryna Ruda
    - 43:03 Hannah Stetsko
    - 47:44 German occupation of Kyiv, Ukraine during World War Two
    - 51:57 Luka Puhach
    - 52:35 Terror of Stalinism
    - 53:55 Red Army invades Ukraine (Castle Films)
    - 54:40 Underground insurgency in Ukraine. Ukrainian nationalists opposed to Germany
    - 56:50 Mykhailo Baranets
    - 58:00 Anna Malynovska
    - 1:06:20 Mykola Holushko

    Focusing on Ukraine, the film incorporates historical footage, interviews with witnesses and survivors, public officials and historians; including Robert Conquest of Stanford University and author of "The Great Terror," former U.S. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski and Roman Szporluk of Harvard University.
     
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    I’ll be Off Line tommorow – I’m catching the :alientwo: Beam :ufo:


    Themz’izz is the FACTS Litwin ! –
    .......................................... Deal With It :blankstare:


    The Bill Passed in the Uuk Parliament & the Vote went that way at the UN

    Funny part is – these Nazi’s would probably enjoy murdering Lithuanians
    ............................ just as much as they do murdering Poles & Russki’s

    At least those Lithuanians who are NOT Nazi’s & who may offend their
    ................................................................ rather Bigoted sensibilities

    Near as I can tell,
    if they ever take over the whole Wolrld you'll probably be OK :mrgreen:

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    What is funny about this, is that if it wasn't for Lenin Ukraine wouldn't exist today. He's the real father of their country, not Bandera. These people live in some kind of alternate reality, but then the main news source is owned by Poroshenko, and he again creates his own reality... like all those super secretive stealth track-less tanks entering Ukraine non stop.

    [​IMG]..Here They Come General.[​IMG]
     
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