This should finish off Hillary's campaign hopes for (our) good!

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  1. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    This should finish off Hillary's campaign hopes for (our) good!


    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/04/27/...ge-their-religious-views-to-support-abortion/

    She wants to control our religious beliefs.

    She wants the government to become our substitute religion.

    The witch has gone too far this time.

    She is dust.

    [video=youtube;j7GJcKuVGm8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=j7GJcKuVGm8[/video]
     
  2. Arxael

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    LOL the conservatives have been trying this for decades with their laws.

    Versus conservatives wanting religion to CONTROL government.

    Palin hasn't said she was going to run, why do you mention her?
     
  3. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not convinced. My reading of the quote is that she just doesn't want the rights of one person to be controlled by the religious beliefs of another. In simple terms, nobody should be forced to have an abortion but nor should anyone be forced not to (though I also question the presumption by LifeNews that she was simply using a "euphemism for abortion").
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Yes I had been expecting her, despite leading in all polls of the American public, to call it quits as soon as any mouthpiece of zealotry expressed criticism.
     
  5. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    No, she is saying that religious beliefs should be changed. IT's plain and simple language. I don't know why you are making it seem much more complicated.

     
  6. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    You can try to defend her all you want but she is DOA. (colloquially speaking)

    Find another horse to ride so that when someone says FU and the horse you rode in on you won't be forced to continue doing this on these pages.

    :deadhorse:
     
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    shmittygoatman New Member

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    hahahahahahaha no. This is by no means the end.
     
  8. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, but only religious beliefs that the law of the land should be based on that believer's religion. Maybe religious beliefs such as husbands should have complete control over what their wives do. What other religious beliefs would need to be changed to permit individuals to do or not do something as they personally choose? Do you even agree that individuals should be free to make personal choices even if those choices are against another individual's religious beliefs?

    I don't believe any American politician would say something that was intended to mean "I want to control your religious beliefs", which was the claim I questioned. They might think it (in all sorts of different directions) but they're not going to deliberately state it.
     
  9. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Finally, we agree on something.

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    And, unlike YOU, I am a zealot FOR American freedom, tranquility and prosperity.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    But she did say that. The thing is, you have to think about politicians--they say what they say based on their audience. In this case, Hillary was saying this to the "Women in the World Summit" so it was geared towards them. She didn't really think that anyone outside of that group would be listening--similar to Romney and the 47% remark.....
     
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    Abortion is barely an issue. It will likely not be mentioned once in the final debates. It's standing law.
     
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    The right often fails to comprehend the degree to which a large segment of the population has been indoctrinated by the left.

    There is probably little Hillary could do to cause those people to see the light or the truth.

    Instead, TPTB will feed them more indoctrination saying that these are just right wing conspiracies to try to regain power, get rich....blah blah blah.....and the vast majority on the left will simpy agree, doing no research on their own, and scream rah! rah! rah! Kill conservatives !! Hillary for President !!!!

    The only reason there has ever been a "right wing" at all is because the left wing has tended to be self exterminating eventually, throughout history.
     
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    But if we suggest Muslims change THEIR religion what would you say?

    Don't bother.

    It will only serve to twist you in knots trying to win the debating point.

    We are trying to save America.

    You?
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    I have yet to hear any retort from those challenged to watch this video ("Hillary: The Movie") from start to finish and still remain supportive of her.

    It is no longer a matter of political football.

    The remainder of this post is directed to every one of PF's Hillary fans.

    HILLARY CLINTON IS JUST ILL SUITED TO GOVERN ANYTHING WITH THE EXPECTATION HER GOVERNANCE WILL TURN OUT WELL.

    If you love America you will watch this video from start to finish and I trust you (assuming you love America and are possessed of sound - though Liberal - mind) will agree she is not only not well suited for the Presidency, but she is just ill suited to govern, well, ANYTHING.

    She isn't even someone people really like.

    Once they get to know her.

    And that is her only hope.

    That the electorate never gets the chance to know what she is REALLY like at least until AFTER the election.

    That is the new Progressive Democrat M.O., in other words, keep the owners of this country, the American people, ignorant (which Liberal Americans seem more than happy to remain) until it is too late to do anything about it.

    Think about how San Fran Nan (Pelosi et al) hustled America by shepherding Obamacare through Congress by not letting anyone read it before voting for it.
    They are playing us like we are dupes, dopes and dunces. When will we stop their virtual political rape of America???

    If you watch this movie you will get to know her far better than she would like.

    That's why she tried to have it banned.

    She's an awful person.

    Don't believe me?

    Watch it and you be the judge.

    [video=youtube;9IOpbj8ajZs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=9IOpbj8ajZs[/video]
     
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    I love con logic, here's a hint. Calling out con nonsense is not default support for Hillary. As for beating a dead horse, your buddies are the ones creating the threads, so ask them about them (*)(*)(*)(*)ing their dead horses.
     
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    I can't believe a politician actually said what she said. First off, Abortion rates had been declining consistently. And these consistent rates have been linked to better sex education and reproductive steps. Not due to some kind of political, social or local pressure. Or due to some X law that hadn't been written.

    Secondly, those religious and moral codes were installed by people of both religious and non-religious faith. Good luck and pray tell how you were going to change the decisions made in private bedrooms? I thought she was against the concept of government getting involved. I guess, it depends on what "side" of the bed they're on ROFL.

    Thirdly, [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/02/guess-who-likes-the-gops-20-week-abortion-ban-women/]Women are far more conservative[/URL]

    Hillary made her Ben Carson-like comment, dropping her from the list. What a sad tale of miserable 2016 candidates. Rand Paul or BUST.
     
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    All she is doing is openly expressing the true opinion of all "progressives" that the government is all that matters, and anything that hinders the people in control of the government should be abolished.

    To a "progressive", religion is fine as long as its kept in the closet, guns are fine as long as the people don't have them, elections are fine as long as the "progressives" select who is on the ballot and who counts the votes.
     
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    What. Ever.

    *Air Jerk*
     
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    I am no fan of any of the establishment possible candidates, especially on the right of course, but you are really bending over backwards to convince others of Hillary's unworthiness and her jumping ship...sure you are not just trying to assuage yourself??? I remember when the right was so sure that Romney had it in the bag and that was right before the actual election. It's really silly to make bold assumptions at this early juncture you know.
     
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    And that's another issue....the indoctrinated left will NOT watch the video and will NOT bother to seek the truth. Even if it puts themselves in danger.

    THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT TRUTH. They are a different breed of human.

    All they care about is finding Utopia and being loved by everyone. Remeber the hippies putting flowers in the gun barrels in the 60's? There ya go.

    Note I did not say "Everyone" on the left.
     
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    Liberals have been consistent that they do not support the right-to-life of the child. She will not lose 1 Democrat vote over being anti-baby. It is the Democrat platform.
     
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    Thanks for linking the video. I had known a bit(not anywhere near as much as that Video) about Hillary's past, flipflopping from a young conservative to a "Liberal". And I had seen her as a military hawk, with socialist views. That alone, would be reason not to support her. But that 1975 video just TOOK the freaking cake.

    Of all of the corruption noted, the idea that she could bribe the President and release convicted terrorists is not only immoral, but unethical, unlawful and EXTREMELY dangerous. And now we know this evil woman is soliciting money abroad. The very last place she belongs is the White House, she belongs in Federal Prison.
     
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    Yep, that one has to be the clincher!

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    Meanwhile, amongst Americans who are not Mitt Romney, are much younger than Mitt Romney, are much more plentiful than Mitt Romney, and do not make their pronouncement on Fox:

    One suspects that a single article in an extremist source such as was posted may not, in fact, "finish off Hillary's campaign hopes," despite such a giddy prognostication.

    Of course, there is still plenty of time, and all those better-educated Americans, Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, female Americans, and the aforementioned younger Americans could succumb to the siren song of those "white men, those with less education and evangelical Protestants – as well as members of the Silent Generation" - right about the time Arnold the Pig is being cleared for landing at Mawrth Vallis Airport.
     
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    [video=youtube;IxAKFlpdcfc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

    I absolutely agree.

    And anyone who watches the movie will feel the same way!

    Hillary is low life.
     
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    hillary will agree with whatever the most recent poll indicates what the popular opinion is for any given day...shrug.
     

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