Supporters ‘Shocked’ that Hillary Paid Women Less than Men

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  1. sammy

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    Hillary Clinton supporters in Washington, D.C., weren’t exactly pleased to learn about recent analysis that suggests the Democratic presidential candidate paid women 72 cents for each dollar paid to men.
    Given Clinton’s position on the so-called “wage gap,” several of her supporters appeared to be visibly stunned when Caleb Bonham, editor-in-chief of Campus Reform, informed them of the analysis on the National Mall.
    “I don’t even know what to say right now,” one woman replied. “I’m kind of shocked. That makes no sense, that makes no sense — like why…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-eIDLvfd6s

    http://wethepeopleocpi.blogspot.com/2015/05/video-supporters-shocked-that-hillary.html

    Hillary has always paid female staffers less than men, this is nothing new folks.
     
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    Who would know more than Hillary that one out of every four weeks will be bad and unproductive weeks for women, so she pays them accordingly.

    Just kidding gals. I have no idea why Clinton places more value on men than women. Maybe she'll tell us.
     
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    Do as I say, not as I do.
     
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    The democratic war on women. It is shocking and disgusting. Shame on them.
     
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    Why is anyone shocked at Hillary's war on women?
     
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    I look forward to the spin job by our resident liberals.
     
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    these are always spin, you can not just total up total paid to each, show me a job title where one is paid more then the other with the same experience and tenure

    a company with a female ceo will have female management making more if you include her salary... why, cause ceo's make more

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    So does Barry!

    This shouldn't come as any surprise, it was the same last year as well. I just love the Democrats who say Republicans have a war on women. Really? Because they won't pay for women's contraceptives? Well Wal-Mart sells 90 day supplies for $10, that's $40 a year. Yet, the White House pays women over $7500 less for doing essentially the same jobs as men and that's NOT a war on women. If women in Obama's White House were paid the same as men, but had to buy their own contraceptives, what they made extra in one year would cover 187 years of buying their own contraceptive pills.

    That's our Barry, I think there just isn't anything he has to say that is believeable anymore.
     
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    LOL ^^^

    "Proof! I want proof!" :laughing:

    Hm. If this analysis is flawed then pretty much every "wage gap" analysis is flawed.

    I do so love the progressive flip-flop though. "Prove it!" LOL :)
     
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    many have been flawed, unless it's a job for job comparison it's pretty worthless
     
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    So experience and POSITION matter more than gender? Who would've thought. Oh wait, WE DID. We were telling you that when this topic first came up.
    Since the 1964 Civil Rights Act, there can be no discrimination on race, gender, orientation, etc al. There is however business "discriminatory" factors, when applying for a job. These factors, which do not relate to a human's dignity but a job's maximum capacity are perfectly legal, fair and utilized.

    A woman CEO is paid on average, roughly the same as a male CEO(give or take a few cents, which is hardly worth the complaint), the same goes down the list. As long as they work the same hours, experience, etc.

    Now, if Liberals lied to you on this little minor issue, imagine where else they're lying to you. I left the Liberal Establishment because they're lying. They lied about worse racial relations(and hence made them worse), they lied about Republicans having a "war on women"(It's a war on morality, if anything), etc. Your party lies to you so you can vote for them every year. The party's literal existence is to win in November. That's it.

    Now, I hate the whole bunch of Republicans as much as anybody but there's some semblance of sanity within the GOP. Fiscal Conservatism, private sector growth, etc. The GOP lies just as much, but still far less than Liberals. Every word out of a Liberal's mouth should be checked for accuracy.
     
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    Clinton thinks all women should be victims, so she pays accordingly.
     
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    OMG! This should get the post of the year award. Great post, honest and true :thumbsup:

    Sanity is absent in both parties, but as you said so much more in the democrats. I have been on this forum longer than most, and I have seen an unbelievable spike in liberals saying and doing anything they can to save their parties power, it doesn't matter if it's wrong, it's all a ways to a means, just like islamo-nazis
     
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    Once upon a time, the Democratic Party was relevant. That was the party of Kennedy. Then, after the New Left revolution, they quickly devolved into the mess they are today. Jimmy Carter's disastrous two-terms. Clinton was able to squeak away with the .Com bubble giving a false impression of his ACTUAL economic policies. Some of which(repeal of Glass-Stegall) led to the crisis. And of course, the present occupant. The one who gets the Nobel Peace Prize for existing and is the worst POTUS in History, hands down.

    None has accomplished less with more, none has been more partisan. For all of Bush's messups, he actually tried. The Community Organizer took a position WAY over his pay grade, and we're all suffering for it. Red and Blue States.
     
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    It's sad to see that people are unable to understand the simple logic that if you take two populations and differentiate them by any random criteria of classification (e.g. race, gender, or whether or not they chew gum on a regular basis) and then try to calculate the average salary of the two populations without controlling for the type of occupations or number of hours worked, the likelihood of the average salaries of the two groups being statistically equal is extremely low. This "gender gap" is nothing more than a significant amount of our population failing to understand basic math and logic.
    With that being said, I am happy that Hillary Clinton is getting a taste of her own medicine.
     
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    So far nobody here has been able to show what these jobs were and how they compared. Was a female cleaner being paid less than a female political analyst? That would be truly shocking!
    Furthermore a Tea Party blog or a youtube video made by a conservative group isn't exactly the first place I'd choose for an impartial and honest commentary.
    So, conservatives, let's have the job titles and wage comparisons. Not too much to ask, surely?
     
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    And why they're "shocked?" Why they're surprised now? Hillary changed her views once and it means that she maybe will change it again(of course if it will be profitable) and of course Hillary don't fight for equal pay, on the contrary - she's against.
     
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    He's actually right, and so are you. I've never seen a wage gap analysis that wasn't useless. Every single one I've seen is just a blanket comparison of men's wages vs women's wages. Things like job titles, experience, and qualifications aren't even mentioned. So you're right, they're pretty much all worthless. I've said this before on this board, I've yet to see one that's done correctly.
     
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    The noise machine has worked this line before.
     
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    Liberals will argue by demanding job comparisons, qualifications, experience, etc., which is a valid approach to this type of wage disparity. However, one can question why she's hired men to fill higher paid positions in the first place, right? I mean, it would seem if she's truly committed to champening for women she'd be leading by example, wouldn't it, lib's?

    Actually, the whole "wage disparity" issue has been hijacked by liberals who've turned into something resembling a wage based affirmative action narrative, so I don't see much value in using it to score political points because it only gives the issue an air of credibility. But hey, that's just me.
     
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    What? Someone will use facts to rebut the implications laid forth by the claim Hillary pays female staffers less? Someone will inject reality into the discussion? Why, that is appalling!


    Just to throw one of them there facts out there, female staffers on both sides of the aisle made less than male staffers.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/cong...-republicans-and-democrats-pay-women-20120711
     
  22. perdidochas

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    And that is exactly the point about the overall women/pay issue. Pretty much, when men and women are working equal jobs (with equal pay and experience), they are getting equal pay. The situation with Clinton's staffers is the same way. It's not a plot against women, or conspiracy. I

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    Carter only had one term. It felt like two, though.....
     
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    She's a huge hypocrite, plain and simple...and a shady, power hungry elitist as well.

    This is just one example of her hypocrisy in action. Ask her about her stance on super pacs and political donations then she turns right around and accepts them with open arms.

    This woman (and her husband) are the epitome of corrupt.

    Self-serving elitists who think they are above the law, but hey, the means always justifies the ends (which under leftist policy never seems to quite materialize).
     
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    So the next time a prominent dem or liberal squawks about the GOP's war on women, you'll stand up and defend them with this piece, yes?
     
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    Ahhh the moment someone realizes everything they thought, was a falsehood based on lies and propaganda.

    Usually thats everything about the left, and it's candidates.

    Priceless.

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    Very true of course, however it wasnt the right that created the War on Women narrative, and tried to paint it as being an "other side of the aisle thing". The left (Democrats) owns that one, and now some people are waking up apparently.
     

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