Report: Woman spray-painted 'So What?' on Confederate memorial

I included a very simple link to read and even offered to provide research papers regarding it if more info was desired. So not sure where your coming from. Sounds more like you just want to argue and keep your illusions. Sorry not my thing.

The civil war made it possible would not have happened for decades without it. Lincoln even said if he could have ended the war without freeing a single slave he would do it.
Not that you will likely care because it easy enough to find on your own if you did. Will post the whole letter.

Lincoln did what he did to preserve the union. He never saw the slaves as equals and wanted to send them back to Africa.

 

Par for the course. Liberal from Rhode Island goes all the way to South Carolina to spray paint graffiti on an historic monument.

Do you think she was paid to do it?

Do you think Al Sharpton paid her?

 

You do know there was Black slave owners that supported the Confederates right?

The Civil war and that time frame was a very complicated thing and to just try to make it about slavery is beyond ignorant.

Then again everything seems to be about race or sex with Progressives lately.

 

You do understand the south was fighting to keep the constitution the way it was and the north was trying to unilaterally and ILLEGALLY change the constitution.

So you support the governments right to change the constitution as they see fit regardless of public support WHILE they ignored a direct mandate from the SCOTUS?

Not only that but your view on the confederacy is nothing more than specious propaganda.

 

You can see why this is going to turn into another civil war debate instead of discussing this womans actions.....

 

If they can pay 5000 a month for protest organizers, they can surely fund a trip to South Carolina.

 

what? The only thing you've put up is the fact that we had a Civil War on this continent. IT was a war over state's rights. It was a war to resist a central government exercising total control over everyone, except themselves, of course. Much like what we have today.
Obama rules while Congress plays the fiddle.
Can we say NDAA, Patriot Act. Our own government is so paranoid it is spying on everyone, even our foreign allies.
This is what we have been warned about. Centralized power is a totally corrupt power. It doesn't matter if they are Repubs or Dems...they are all guilty of it.
IMO, our fed gov is prepping for war in this country. What are you doing?

 

plus, the Civil War was not about slavery, it was about States Rights....

 

What if a white guy spray painted SO WHAT on a statue of Dr. Martin Luther King?

 

that would be a hate crime

 

There is still 27 million black people enslaved in Muslim countries world wide.

27 Million, today, not 150 years ago....

 

The use of the word you makes it sound like slavery end a couple of years ago. You do know that there was not even slavery in the last century, except in her home of Africa.

 

And that isn't counting the nepalese and philipinos in Saudi Arabia.

 

Im talking about real slaves born into slavery because their parents were slaves.

 

And I'm talking about people who went there to work but can't leave until their "master" signs their exit papers meaning that they're stuck there and forced to continue to work without pay for years until their master tires of them and finaly sign their papers. In the case of one nepalese women, it took 15 years... The story was on the BBC world service yesterday.

 

Less than 5% of the people ever owned slaves and the 95% that did not were fighting to keep their homes from being burned, their wives, daughters and sisters from being raped and their crops and animals from being destroyed. Remember, the Union aggressed INTO the South.

What the confederacy means to those descendants is a fierce pride in their ancestors who had nothing to do with slavery. They erected memorials to honor their slain loved ones.

The woman, whether or not she liked the memorial, is guilty of vandalism and she should pay to have it repaired.

 

Could you imagine the backlash is some older white lady went up to a MLK Jr. memorial and spray painted "so what?" on it? Yes, you could expect another city to become a bonfire.

 

The civil war was representative of more than just slavery. Had the 1787 constitution not been ratified there would not have been a civil war. I can say that with absolute certainty. They abolished federalism in favor of fervent nationalism. When you take away the right of local populations to determine local policy, what can you expect but war?

It was justified, it still is.

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Unfortunately, the confederacy was not actually a confederacy. It was, like the union, a strong national government.

 

The German SS were memorialized by their families. Even if it were a statue of Hitler, she has no right to deface it. It's estimated that about 12% of the Confederate army were conscripts and the vast majority of the soldiers were not themselves slave owners, but poor farmers.. .

 

Ah so you agree with defacing public property because someone of your skin color was a slave long ago? Sounds like she might be another northern aggressor coming to the south to start more (*)(*)(*)(*) and destroy more property.

 

And this (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) doing the same thing would not be a hate crime?

And you wonder why everyone thinks liberals are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiots.

 

my town was featured in Ripley's Believe it or Not back in the 80's because it was the furthest south union monument. Located in NW Florida, my town was founded by a bunch of former union soilder carpetbaggers in 1912....

it never was ever defaced... but it later was rededicated as a Veteren's monument, not just a union soldier monument.

It also faced North by design....

 

history eludes him.


One of the issues Confederate soldiers and armies faced..... if I was conscripted from FL, many soldiers would refuse to fight in Alabama, or Mississippi. and vice versa.

Fl soldiers defended FL
SC soldiers defended SC


Gen Lee himself, did not support slavery, but he did support VA, which seceded....


often, you could buy your way out of conscription, lending validity to your claim... that only the poor were drafted.


In my town, we made salt towards the war effort..... and a family could buy their way out of a conscription by producing xxx amount of salt

My area of Florida didn't use slaves because the environment wasn't conducive to slaves or cotton production or sugar cane. Salt milling wasn't a "slave friendly"

it's factory type work.


slavery didn't end in the North because people were morally superior.... they were just as racist... but slave labor didn't work for factories, so they went away from it.


it's laughable when apologists think they were morally superior. They could care less about actual slavery.

 

The solders were fighting for many things and few of them were fighting to keep the Blacks enslaved. A small part of the people in the South owned slaves but most of the people in the South felt the weight of the oppressive taxes levied by the federal government on the products produced in the South.

You are very ignorant it seems. What human atrocities were committed by the Confederate troops that compares to the punitive destruction of Atlanta and other cities in the South by Union troops???

 

The Civil War was about far more than just slavery. As always, the victor tends to put it's point of view in the history books, and the narrative that was pushed was "the civil war was about slavery".

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Exactly. If you are going to keep score of "war crimes" committed, I would say General Sherman and his men take the cake.