An extremely dangerous conflict is brewing between the US and China in a tiny archipe

"Extremely dangerous conflict"?

ROFL.

 

That's what hegemony is all about. Technological innovation, leads to military superiority, which leads to economic hegemony.

Over time, technology spreads out which makes projecting power more expensive which eventually leads to economic ruin of countries who try keep projecting power in spite of increasing costs.

Good example is the gatling gun. With one gunship the British could take over an entire African nation fighting back with sticks and stones. Cheap and easy.

Then technology spreads. Years later the African nation gets the gatling gun. Now instead of one gunship a whole armada is required. This is expensive and there will be many casualties.

The USA is facing the same situation. Iraq, a country that had all its stuff wiped out a decade earlier in the first war and had an arms embargo ever since was fighting back with 1960s equipment and it still broke the bank trying to project power in the region.

 

Merwen,

Huh?

Perhaps you might do a little more research on this matter and understand that China considers the South China Sea as its 'lake'...an area much larger than the Mediterranean Sea. China's 'claim' is based on an arbitrary 'nine-dashed' line that China refuses to explain to the United Nation and is disputed by many nations within and bordering the SCS. The Philippines recently brought this dispute before an International Court as China refuses to arbitrate it (I wonder why)...and the court may very well decide against China.

As an aside, China has the 'nerve' to demand that the U.S. Navy 'request permission' to navigate in the South China Sea. Nice.

Consequently, China's current frantic 'island building' exercise.

The bad news is...if the International Court decides against China (their territorial claims are illegal...probably a certainty), who's going to kick China off their newly created 'stationary aircraft carriers'? The main objective of China's efforts.

More to come...

 

We should just bomb 'em out of existence (the islands I mean).

They're in international waters, we can do that right? (Since no one can "own" anything in international waters).

 

You will have to find out, comrade.

 

Its true. And we destroyed that nation, and rebuilt it even better. The Chinese should be smarter than that.

 

Lolz all day. So your premise (because you say so, probably after reading it on a lefty blog) is that the Chinese are THREATENED by missing aircraft, and merely by coincidence now building up sub-surface coral reefs NOT because they are incredibly resource rich (oil, fishing, etc) but because they are worried about missing Malaysian (Malaysia is its own nation, also claiming the islands) aircraft.

I may die from laughing, but I suppose its a pleasant way to go, especially for the use of the word "logical".

To be clear, I am laughing out loud all day-it may be terminal after reading your post. Thank you.

 

It was my very own idea.



I try to avoid politicized blogs; they are too biased.

The Chinese were, after all, involved in the search for the Malaysian plane, and, like everyone else, confronted with the inaccessibility of vast swathes of ocean.

The Chinese are becoming aware of their world responsabilities, and I think that is a good thing. For most of their history they had been isolationists. Now. like us, they are roaming the planet for resources, building influence and helping countries in Africa and South America with projects. They seem to be playing by the rules of capitalism, not fomenting wars like some countries I could mention.

I don't know what you mean about them feeling threatened by a missing airliner-- that was regarding the trade negotiations they are being left out of.

I imagine the fish are disturbed by the activity on the ocean floor and if they are covering up coral that will also cause some ecological harm, I would think. It's a truly impressive operation though.

 

I thought you would appreciate capitalism... done correctly, socialism should follow.

 

Yes, there certainly do seem to be a few little details that will need to be handled.

 

So you aren't aware of what is happening in Asia, are you? The rest of our allies in the region would disagree with your assertion. They have similar concerns to ours that in an area where so much trade is transacted China is constructing buildings that are largely unnecessary given current technology. That, and China is doing it solo.

You should spend some time thinking about this issue and connect the dots that America isn't going it alone in the region.

 

"South China Sea" is one of the possible places to start a major war. This region is very complex. I think there acting like a bull in a china shop really stupid. I think - we must all be flexible and take into account each other's interests.

P/S:

I do not know. Perhaps on Lake Michigan.

 

Socialism has never really existed. Maybe just a little bit in the Soviet Union under Stalin. But then it was a difficult period - the civil war, the Second World War (Despite this, the standard of living has increased several times, the level of the industry has increased several times, life expectancy has increased, there was no unemployment, 100% literate population etc.) .... But seized power scoundrel and a homosexual - Khrushchev. And.....an end to the country's development.

 

Well, now you have another chance with Putin.

Why not post some px of ocean ports or ocean views Russia has now? With global warming, it is my understanding some are increasingly accessible in cold weather. Which ones are those?

Does China have more?

 

The tiny archipelago is the hook that the US might attempt to use provoking a military war.

This is a consequence of the economical war between the US and China.

China and Russia have started an economical war against the US and the West just by refusing the use of dollars. China and Russia have diminished their buying of US bonds, they are trading between themselves using their own currencies.

There are possibilities that other countries will imitate them.

This is bad news, very very bad news for the US and the West in general, because a falling dollar means the needle that will cause the explosion of the already existing inflationary balloon.

The falling of the dollar as international currency means that goods will cost twice from one day to another in the US. It means that you will be limited to withdraw money from your own bank account. It means that the US can easily fall into a third world economical status.

A war with China won't make any solution, but surely will cover up the real cause of the US disastrous economical condition: our corrupt politicians have destroyed the US economy, our country is in bankruptcy, Obama received a GDP ratio of 68% and right now the GDP has a ratio of 101%, meaning that practically we are done.... and this president cares more in hosting lesbians and sodomites in the White House instead of balancing the budget... Lol.

 

It is not dangerous at all. We are in debt to China. This is only a bluffing on both sides. War in China is unwinnable and American strategists admitted this long ago. Nowadays, China and Russia became allies, we all know what does it mean in case of war.

 

Good topic!

Here is an analysis of one part of this subject that I never heard until it was explained in another discussion here on politicalforum.com.


http://www.politicalforum.com/austr...t-about-his-analysis-usa-relations-china.html

Is AA correct about his analysis of USA relations with China?

I was looking for another quotation by AA and found this one by accident........ Is AA correct that being heavily in debt to China has some major advantages?