IRS confirms illegals can get back-taxes under Obama amnesty

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    illegal immigrants granted the amnesty will now be able to claim refunds on tax returns they never even filed, thanks to the Earned Income Tax Credit.

    If you or I failed to file income tax returns or worse yet filed false ones, we'd be fined, penalized and possibly jailed. If you're illegal apparently you can file those back tax returns with impunity and get big fat refunds apparently without penalty.

    I just find it incredible that non citizens seem to have more rights and are immune from more laws than American Citizens. Now pick up one of your pay stubs and look at the deductions and the amounts, Fed Withholdng, Fed MED/EE, Fed OASDI/EE. You are paying to have the deck stacked against you and in favor of those who are here illegally. I'll be 58 years old in a few months and I've never seen anything like this in my life. I could understand it if there were factories springing up all over and companies were clamoring for workers to fill the positions. At this point in time the opposite is true. The economy is growing slower than rock formations. Flooding the labor market with workers will only stagnate wages or worse drive them down. How exactly is this helping the middle class workers? Think about that long and hard before the next election.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Madness. Thankfully, the courts have ruled against Emperor Obama's Imperial Dictate...:roll:
     
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    There is a big difference between not filing a tax return when there is still taxes owed and not filing a return when a refund is owed. Nobody is required to file a tax return if they do not owe additional taxes. Of course, how would a person know this if they did not at least prepare their tax form.

    I believe what they are saying is that IF an illegal immigrant has been working and paying over the amount of taxes due, which would result in them receiving a refund, then YES, they can file to get the refund for the over payment of taxes. However, isn't it illegal to work in this country if they are not IN this country legally? I would think that breaking the law would preclude them from receiving refunds on over payment of taxes while working illegally.
     
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    Funny I to just said to my wife that the government is taking our money and using it against us. We're on the same page Professor.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Foreign workers must get permission to work legally in this country.

    http://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/working-us
     
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    President Muad'dib does not recognize courts. They'll fall in line soon enough.
     
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    It truly is madness. This whole "redistribution of wealth" because the rich are evil, will be our nation's undoing if we can't stop it.
     
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    I get that reference.

    Can't wait to see him in the new Twin Peaks series.
     
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    If we are believe that illegals are so horribly paid and all, with all that anti-business cheap labor whining, there is virtually no way these illegals wouldn't be overpaying and would therefore qualify not only for a refund, but likely earned income credit as well. Pretty clear this is just another vote buying scheme by progressive scumbags...
     
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    I also doubt that any employer that knowingly hires illegal workers would make the Federal Deposit to actually pay the tax withholdings. In other words, it is unlikely that the illegal employee paid any taxes at all.
     
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    The IRS can also confirm that I'm not giving them a cent willingly.
     
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    That is probably true, but you can't buy votes with truth, that takes lots of other people's money...
     
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    Also, if the employer did not know they were illegal, then it is likely that they worked under a false identity and SSN. How would they obtain a refund on a SSN that is not even theirs?
     
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    if we did not, then they would put 10 dependents and owe each year, rather then let the gov keep their money until the end
     
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    Why would folks not get money they are owed back to them?

    I do not know of any criminal statute in regards solely to immigration status that empowers confiscatory actions of the government.
     
  16. Professor Peabody

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    They use SSN's stolen from others. They also use SSN's of people who are dead.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Good point think! We should hand 'em a check and deport 'em immediately.
     
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    Sweet, all they gotta do is prove they paid income taxes, and if they have proof, then imprison their employer, and deport them.
     
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    Under EITC you can get a "refund" even if you paid no taxes at all.
     
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    I don't know anywhere else in the world where you are allowed to use fictitious/stolen documents to pretend you are legal and get rewarded for it. They are breaking the law, they shouldn't even be here working, they are entitled to NOTHING!
     
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    I for one might agree with the second part of that.

    Frankly, though, I think illegals needs more deterring than they're getting now. Something more harsh than simple deportation would be nice.
     
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    Indeed, it's really upside-down for people to come here illegally and, together with native-born idiots, whine that the laws are at fault rather than the illegals.
     
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    No such thing as an illegal "immigrant."

    If you entered the country legally and are in possession of an immigrant visa and green card, you are an immigrant, a legal alien.

    If you entered the country illegally or allowed your visa to expire, you are an illegal alien not an immigrant.
     
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    Well, since the definition of "Immigrant" is someone that lives permanently in a foreign country, I disagree.
     
  25. Professor Peabody

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    You've brought up a good point. If they broke the law working a job they had no right to, why should they be entitled to a refund? Should a person who participates in illegal gambling get his or her money back if the bookie gets busted?
     

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