Hamas executed Palestinians during Israel war: Amnesty**MOD WARNING**

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Palestinians ARE home, in Palestine where they are from.

    Its very ironic that Israelis are calling for other people to be ethnically cleansed, considering the history of the Jewish people.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are home in Jordan which is a country created for Palestinians. Everywhere else they are squatters.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not according to International Law, which the Israeli govt. of course spits on but its the law, nonetheless.
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should Palestinians have second state when they already have one? Why, is something wrong with the one they have?
     
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    I didn't claim they are killing people. My understanding is that they are probably purposefully missing them.

    Still, how would you like to be out in your boat, trying to catch fish to feed your family, and have Israelis in their military craft shooting live rounds over your head?

    How would you like to be working your fields and have snipers shooting live rounds near you as you work?

    I'd point out that almost no rocket attacks have ever been any more lethal than that, and the rockets have Israel going bonkers.
     
  6. WillReadmore

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    Bull. You don't get peace by carrying out ethnic cleansing. You don't get peace by uprooting the orchards of farmers in the lands you occupy with military force.

    Who thinks Israel wants peace? Don't try to sell that nonsense. Israel wants ethnic cleansing. You can tell by noticing that they are the ones who are in complete control and they spend their time stealing the property of Palestinians living in their own country. That's what causes WAR, not peace.

    And, the blockade is another act of war perpetrated continuously for 8 years now - an act that Netanyahu refuses to negotiate even after having agreed to that as part of the ceasefire agreement.

    Do you realize that there is an ongoing international effort right now that is trying to figure out how to keep Gaza from exploding under the pressure of the blockade, the sniping at fishermen, farmers and road builders, the theft of Gaza's energy reserves, and the prevention of travel (not just of soccer players, but government officials, international humanitarian organizations, news organizations, students wanting to leave to go to universities where they have been accepted, etc.).

    Right now, there are so many legitimate causes for war against Israel that multiple nations are trying to figure out how to evade that outcome.

    Is THAT what you call "peace"???
     
  7. WillReadmore

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    We don't allocate nationhood by ethnicity. We don't do ethnic cleansing to remove people from the property they own.

    Even if there was a one-state solution, Palestinian property owners would retain full legal rights to the land they own.

    I don't see a way to take your comment other than as a proposal for humanitarian atrocity.
     
  8. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The way it will eventually work is that Israel will annex West Bank and Gaza and buy one way ticket to Jordan for all Palestinians, while buying their property from them. Will be expensive for sure, but heck, it'll worth it in the end. And UN will chip in I'm sure, what's with finally getting rid of all the freeloaders.
     
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    this would give the world the excuse its been waiting for, to implement total economic and diplomatic isolation upon Israel.

    and perhaps even NATO invasion.
     
  10. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would hope so? Nah, given the proper diplomatic and PR and given enough time for the world to absorb the idea, nothing of the kind will happen.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it makes me very, very sad that my fellow Jews could actually contemplate and rationalize such a horrible act.

    what has happened to us? did the Holocaust, the Progroms, the Inquisition, the Exile from Spain/England/Germany/France teach us nothing????

    maybe the Bible is right about us. :(
     
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    Uh, no.

    Ethnic cleansing is universally recognized as a humanitarian crime.

    In a one-state solution, those living in West Bank and Gaza would become full citizens of Israel while continuing to own their property.

    Israel could make offers on property owned by Palestinians, of course. But, even in that ridiculous scenario Palestinians who accept such offers would be under no obligation to leave West Bank.
     
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    they can legaly (UN-Law) execute, it they are the State West-Palestine (Gaza).
     
  14. Eadora

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    Said True :(
    Yet it is encouraging that there are many Jews who stand
    in the fore-front of the opposition to these Criminal policies

    Not So
    It is the nature of the 'Crucible of Suffering'
    It makes you Bitter or it makes you Better
    It burns off the Dross & purifies, or It encumbers one with ugly Accretions


    & it is rather Obvious where both Ronstar and the Dutch
    ..................................................... stand in this regard

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  15. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What makes you think I'm a Jew?

    Times, they're changin! No more "Progroms, the Inquisition, the Exile from Spain/England/Germany/France" or even if they'll happen, at least now the Jews can go to the promised, and well protected land.

    Do not (*)(*)(*)(*) with the Jews, for they will no longer turn the other cheek.
     
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    <Off-topic>

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    Highlighting
    the Moral Depravity of the present Zionist Regime in Israel

    The Shocking Words
    Of Israeli Zionist Leaders Supporting Genocide
    Read Aloud into the Record of The Irish Parliament

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHejuqu1o4c#t=107


    Israel 2015: A Government Of Extremists
    In Charge Of An-Out-Of Control Military


    Israeli officials&#8217; words and soldiers&#8217; testimonies reinforce immediate
    .............................. ... need for arms embargo and other sanctions


    http://www.ipsc.ie/press-releases/i...t-of-control-military-new-ipsc-briefing-paper


    Check near bottom of the Site for Testimonials from IDF members
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Zionist Leaders & Their Intents & Purposes Made Clear


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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, all politicians and with balls... I wish we had some with the same degree of conviction here in the States, especially among Republicans...
     
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    Yup - It takes real balls to commit High Tech Genocide
    upon a Defenseless Occupied people & steel their Land

    Or is it rather a matter of exercising Diseased Gohones


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    Ranchers in Nevada showed up with guns when the US simply wanted to be paid for use of the land as per legal contracts.

    In West Bank, the government of an occupying nation is showing up to STEAL the land from the rightful owners who are living on it and farming it.

    If that happened in America, what do you think OUR response would be?

    Would YOU defend your land? Or, would you load up your family and drive them to a relocation camp?
     
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    Again you trumpet <falsehood>... Very few Arabs can provide ownership papers or a khushan of Land they are working/tilling, the majority just sneaked behind the Jordanian Army led by British Officers in 1948 and grabbed whatever piece of property they could...

    Squatting on open space in Judea and Samaria does not entitle <ownership> of the Land they are squatting on.
     
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    according to the laws of Jordan and the Mandate, cultivated land can be registered to those who farm it.

    these laws are still in effect, according to [MENTION=60747]stuntman[/MENTION]
     
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    That is the argument of someone bent on stealing their property. You want to claim that those living on the land have LESS right to the property that thieves and ethnic cleansers of an invading nation. Unbelievable!!

    I'd point out that here in America we have adverse possession laws that favor those who are living on the land even over those who have rock solid ownership papers.
     
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    Falsehood again!!!
    Without emotions and pejorative... taking into consideration the present time.
    Israel liberated that Land from the Jordanians and it is theirs by <reconquest>!!!

    The so called Palestinian Arabs were not even part of the fight... they are trying to be the spoilers by default!

    America has its laws we have ours...
     
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    We are not an <invading nation>... we just liberated our patrimony! The rightful owner of that land!!!
    Ask yourself the following question: -

    What is a <motherland>? And how one would reconcile a <people> with a <land> they call their own???

    Apart from the common descent, lineage, heritage, culture, ancestry, language, ethnic background, society, folklore, tradition, custom and religion?

    Have you ever asked yourself, why people occupy a certain part of the globe and call it <home>???

    Why do the Hellenes/Greeks live in Greece, the Turks in Turkey, the Mongols in Mongolia, the Arabs in Arabia, the Chinese in China? etc.,

    And why do they call that, their <Motherland>?

    What kind of proof do they give us for their respective attachment and devotion to every square inch of their respective <Domain, Home>?

    One thing comes to mind, and only one "Archaeology!"

    Every <artifact>, (ancient product of human workmanship), every vestige, trace, mark, every visible sign of something past, perished or still existent today, will shed light on this particular body of <people>... Their inheritance, their ownership of that Land from time immemorial...

    The area where they originally left their marks, might be temporarily under the yoke of a foreign power and other powers after that... but the descendants of the original inhabitants who were forcefully dispersed all over the globe by historical circumstances, now returning to their <ancestral Home> are in the process of <reconstituting> it (will always be their land as long as they are alive and well)!!

    For as much as <Archaeology> is the science of <fact finding> and <history> its interpretation... the Jewish people's motherland is Israel!!!
     

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