Obama: More G7 sanctions if Ukraine conflict continues

No. I'm just tired of hearing made up bull(*)(*)(*)(*) over and over

 

Made up bull(*)(*)(*)(*) like "Russia invaded Ukraine"? That seems to happen every other week according to NATO apologists.

Does that make you an Obama basement guy?

 

I dare you to watch this video, and see the funeral of a five year old boy killed by a grad missile, and then repeat what you just said:

[video=youtube;_czsoyUriFE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czsoyUriFE&feature=youtu.be[/video]

 

we all know what sort of propaganda you Russians are up to, it couldn't be more obvious.

 

You probably think Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are Russian-born spies...

 

Ma'am. I once used a shovel and a trashbag to scoop up the gore drenched remains of 28 innocent civilians in Afghanistan after 2 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s suicide bombed a market place. Your video is pointless to the topic at hand, and my previous statement STILL stands. MADE! UP! BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)!!! No one has denied that innocent people have died in Ukraine. No one has denied that Kiev is responsible for thousands of those deaths, although you and the rest of your troll brigade who lack all honor and integrity deny that Russian terrorists are responsible for even one. However, none of these deaths even remotely resemble a genocide or an ethnic cleansing. You spit on the memories of everyone who has ever died in an actual genocide everytime you try and spout this bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You deserve some really awful stuff kid. You should be ashamed.

Shut. Up.

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See this doesn't make much sense. You say we claim they invade every other week. No. Russia invaded last year. This invasion has continued tell this very moment and will continue tell Putin falls. There is no repeat invasions or something. It's one invasion. One occupation.

 

Yes I admit, the Russians did invade once, but it was two thousand years ago when the Slavs entered Europe. Today these people are fighting for their homes, their lands, their churches, and their language, heritage and culture from the Banderite Nazis of Western Ukraine, and from the occupying Fascist government in Kiev. These killed and maimed people and that five year old child is your so called Russian terrorists.

This is what constitutes genocide in the UN, and this is exactly what is being done to the Russians in the Donbas:

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:
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Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;​

Here's a definition of Nazi from the Merriam Webster Dictionary:

An evil person who wants to use power to control and harm other people especially because of their race, religion, etc.​

As for Putin falling, who in the d*mn world are you to tell the Russian people who they should have as a leader, and who they shouldn't have as a leader. The arrogance appalls me. The following is from Pres. Reagans former economic minister, who is one of the most brilliant men in the US:

Monday in Westminster in London, the International Tribunal for Natural Justice is forming. If my understanding of this work of Humanitad is correct, we have a cause for hope. Perhaps the Tribunal will try the criminals of our time, almost all of which are “leaders” of Western governments, on the Internet with juries and prosecutors so that populations everywhere can witness the evil that every Western government represents.

Once the West is perceived as the evil force that it is, it will have to reform and again embrace Edward Coke’s vision of the Great Charter or become an unimportant backwater while the rest of the world goes on to better things. The world is saved once the world ceases to bow down to the American Caesar.​

 

If "Russian propaganda" liar, You can easily disprove. And easily prove about you right. But why You still do not? Why persuasive communication on the forum is only by "Russian propaganda"?

Another such moment. Here, the G7 called for an end to Russia for the bloodshed in Ukraine. But we see that in Donbass only Ukrainian army shelled civilians. All the losses suffered on the Donbass, but not Ukraine.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=411534&p=1065097789#post1065097789

Does this mean you think that Russia should intervene to stop the bloodshed expelling the army of Ukraine with the land of Donbass?

Variant that against Ukraine the Russian army cannot be used, because there is no proof. But there is plenty of evidence that the land of Donbass protect local residents and volunteers, armed by former Ukrainian weapons.

This is your, the Russian army?



Finally, the actual Ukrainian government sometimes, talked about the real state of affairs. For example:

These are the words of the head of Ukraine's national security. If Russia is preparing to invade, then what was she doing so far?

 

And that is exactly what is NOT happening anywhere in Ukraine. Why did you post the definition of Nazi?

As for Putin falling, who in the d*mn world are you to tell the Russian people who they should have as a leader, and who they shouldn't have as a leader. The arrogance appalls me. The following is from Pres. Reagans former economic minister, who is one of the most brilliant men in the U.S.

I'm not telling Russia who their leader should be. I don't even care who Russia's leader is. I was merely pointing out a fact. Putin will fall, as all dictators and tyrants one day fall. It is nature. How many times do we have to go over this. Quit sourcing Paul Craig Roberts. No one gives a (*)(*)(*)(*), him being an advisor to Reagen means jack(*)(*)(*)(*). No one but Russian trolls are paying him any attention. Shut up. Please.​

 

How can you call the leader of a nation which has a higher rating than any leader in the world by a international pollster a tyrant? Oh, that must be a new word for Washington's New Orwellian Dictionary. Thanks for letting me know.

Tyrant - State leader with exceptionally high popularity rating.

 

He actually recognized the genocide, what a low level of diplomacy... not surprised at all as he is being tought by such a moron as kerry the Idiot.

 

Because US lawmakers ban aid to Ukraine neo-Nazis

The House of Representatives unanimously adopted amendments to the US 2016 defense budget proposal, outlawing training and arming of Ukraine’s notorious paramilitary “Azov” battalion. Russia hailed the decision as “better late than never.”

Proposed by JOHN Conyers (D-Mich.) and Ted Yoho (R-Fla.), the amendments to HR 2685, the “Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2015, refer to “Azov” battalion as an “ OPENLY neo-Nazi” and “fascist,” and prohibit US instructors from TRAINING or arming the controversial unit.

The amendments, intended to “protect civilians from dangers of arming and training foreign forces,” also ban US exports of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft rockets, known as MANPADS, to Iraq and Ukraine.

Overzealous military assistance or the hyper-weaponization of conflicts can have destabilizing consequences and ultimately undercut our own NATIONAL interests,” Congressman Conyers said in a statement.

“I am grateful that the House of Representatives unanimously passed my amendments LAST night to ensure that our military does not train members of the repulsive neo-Nazi Azov Battalion,” he ADDED...http://rt.com/usa/266869-conyers-azov-training-amendment/

 

Ma'am,I know we've gone over this with you several times before but for some reason you still can't seem to get this through your thick skull. Putin having high ratings does not mean (*)(*)(*)(*)! You know who else had high approval ratings? Hitler. Who else? Saddam, Moa, Stalin, Kim Jong Un and Il, Assad, Gaddaffi, Than Shwe, Chavez, Fidel... Ext. all had or have very high approval ratings. All are still dictators regardless. It's especially pointless to argue outings sainthood based off his approval ratings when you ask yourself who his people are giving him the ratings. Russian are well known for their inability to or even desire to think for themselves. They crave oppression. They are unable to exist in a world where they aren't brainwashed to the point of delusion.

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Yes. Awsome. I'm glad they did that. But uhh...? What's your point? What does this have to do with the supposed genocide in eastern Ukraine?

By the way. How big is the azov battalion and how big is the Ukrainian military?

 

In your opinion, each politician with a high rating — is the dictator?

 

No. Just the ones that are dictators. Quit saying stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) like a little kid. What are you, 5?

 

on Oct 9, 2014 the regiment made 800 people. Ukrainian troops, which bombs the cities of Donbass. Members of a regiment adhere to far-right and neo-Nazi views.

 

The battalion Azov isn't under control to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence and therefore its exact number is unknown. By rough estimates it makes about 1000 people of fighters on Donbass and about 1000 more people supporting across other Ukraine.

Despite big formal figures the number of the Ukrainian army, in Ukraine isn't enough really efficient soldiers. Soldiers in large quantities desert (only in Russia from more than a million Ukrainians fled conscription age) and don't want to go to be at war to Donbass. Therefore this battalion provides a powerful contribution to fighting capacity of the Ukrainian army.

Besides, as I gave examples above, it the nationalist battalion, not only in Ukraine. For example, there is still "Sich" and others.

At last, not all Ukrainian nationalists gathered in these battalions. Many are at war and in usual groups of the Ukrainian army.

I think even if the senate of the USA recognized that in Ukraine there is the whole nazi battalion, it is unreasonable to consider that all nationalism in Ukraine concentrated only in this battalion.

Actually all revolution in Ukraine took place under the slogans "kill the Russian" (literally: "moskalyku na gillyaku" — "to hang up a Muscovites on a boughs", "moskaley na nozhi" — "slaughter Muscovites by knives" and others). It also was the main cause of split of Ukraine and became the beginning of civil war. The Russian population of Ukraine didn't want to become people of the second grade and to be reconciled with the Ukrainian nationalism.

 

stop lying..
how much do you get paid though???

 

Balancer

You lie,you stupid Vanya,the Russian-speaking population hates and despises Putin and Russia,nationalists are very few,and it's not a problem.
The majority of the population supports NATO.
You shameful Russian propagandist.

 

Come on, disprove my statements point by point.

 

Prove it.

The insults are not evidence. They only show the weakness of Your position. The strong side is there is no need to stoop to insults.

I'm not talking about Western Ukraine writing. And about the Donbass and Crimea. Can tell a lot of tales as they hate Putin. If in the Donbas for something and don't like Putin, only for the fact that so far not intervened and restored order. And after the Crimea escaped the fate of Donbass, the inhabitants of the Crimea were the most loving Putin Russians.

 

Balancer

Only agree with you about the Crimea,there really is more support for the Russians.
but not in other cities,seeing what you did in Donetsk/Lugansk and how many killed!
Seeing that abomination in Russia at everything,absolutely everything other number but contempt Russia does not.

 

Now tell me, how Russia turns out to kill the residents of Donbas, with shelling by heavy artillery from the Ukrainian side. And why the residents of Donbas love Russia, which supposedly kills them and hate Ukraine?

This is all the handiwork of the Russian army?
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=411534&p=1065097789#post1065097789

 

I chose to end our dispute,my Russian brother)And yeah,sorry for the insult

 

So those 800 people represent the entire 350,000 man army of Ukraine? They are all nazis based off of the actions and personal beliefs of these small few? A group who got less then one percent of the vote last year?

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Same thing as I just said to kiwi. This small group some how reflects all of Ukraine? And no, the reason for the split was Russia invading Ukraine. Period.