Will Violence Against Whites Be Justified In the Aftermath? >READ MOD WARNING<

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Well, the black on white violence is already twenty five times the rate per-capita of white on black violence. So the question shouldn't be will black on white violence increase because of this one incident. The question should be, will white on black violence increase with this incident as an example or catalyst? Clearly this incident is soundly condemned by whites nationwide. So the answer is no, whites will not succumb to such a neanderthal mentality. And if blacks do, it will of course have no foundation in justice, balance or justification, just as it now does not. For decades, whites generally have winced and absorbed the blow without recourse. But I suppose there is a point at which this will not hold.
     
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    I'd dig out that junior high school diploma and get my money back for the part on sentence structure because if you're trying to make an analogy it's just not working.
     
  3. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so leaving off two periods through you off that bad?

    "Yes the mass shooting will be used to justify black on white violence. Just like white privilege, poverty, and racism has been used to justify black violence for decades."

    Is that better?
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is senseless violence. No they don't deserve it, not even based on this or other things. Not unless THEY specifically did it and even then it isn't Christian and we should have enough respect for the victims to act in a Christian matter here. Christianity condemns revenge. "Vengeance is MINE, saith the Lord" meaning all accounts will be settled in Heaven. Vengeance is beyond a Christian's purview and not a part of our assigned ministry, we can only forgive.
     
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    I get it, but would have structured the analogy a bit better. Consider it a red mark on the margins of your paper.
     
  6. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry
    I didn't know I was going to get graded on my punctuation
     
  7. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps because the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. would have take Barack Obama to task for his race baiting and incitement of racial strife.
     
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    MLK would be so ANGRY at Barack Obama and the Dem Party voters who twice put a nation-hating Marxist/Socialist into the Oval Office. He would exclaim, "We finally get a Black president and he turns out to be utter rubbish!"
     
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    Attacks against whites in general obviously wouldn't make sense. That would just be people lowering themselves to the level of the killer. But, a black person attacking a white supremacist has probably always been justified. That's just self defense. When a person decides to go out and try to hurt another, which is what every white supremacist is doing regardless of whether they just talk or they act on their beliefs, then people in the group they're trying to hurt are fully justified in retaliating. I personally believe that for retaliation to be justified, it needs to be somewhat proportional, but the harm white supremacists do to minorities is pretty massive, so that'd be a pretty high limit.
     
  10. tuhaybey

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    If MLK were alive today, does anybody seriously doubt that you guys would refer to him as a "race baiter" and a "race pimp" and talk about how he is "dividing" us and whatnot? That's what "race baiting" appears to mean- exposing and fighting against racism and racial inequality. Right? Well that's what MLK was all about. You just somehow don't connect it because you learned in school that MLK was a hero and right wing pundits told you that modern day civil rights advocates are evil, and you never really thought it through that the things that made your teachers believe MLK was a hero are the same exact things that make the right wing pundits think modern day civil rights activists are evil.
     
  11. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't it nice to make assumptions contradicting a man's ideals especially after death. So you believe that MLK's niece Dr. Alveda King should not continue in her uncle's footsteps? Here's a comparison of Dr. King and your idol Sharpton.

    Alveda King Calls for Prayer in Wake of SC Massacre: 'Hate Cannot Drive out Hate'
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/06/...ch-massacre-calls-prayer-love-and-forgiveness
    "We have to pray for peace, work to have justice and begin to change the hearts of the people," King said.
    "It's going to take us working through our own human spirits, connecting to the divine and with God directing and guiding us. And that's how we can change the heart of the nation," King said.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Al Sharpton Calls Charleston Shooting a 'New Low In Hate'
    http://dailysurge.com/2015/06/king-of-hate-al-sharpton-calls-charleston-shooting-a-new-low-in-hate/
    Sharpton called Dylann Roof, 21, of Lexington, South Carolina’s decision to massacre nine people a “new low in hate and atrocities in this country.” Sharpton was speaking at a press conference when he made those remarks.
    I wonder if Sharpton asked for a collection to be taken up on his behalf. After all, he has done that before. Last week we learned that Connecticut Pastor Marcus Mosiah Jarvis said he was compelled to stand up against Al, calling Sharpton a “charlatan” and a “pimp” for taking a collection during a “Stop the Violence & Cease the Killing” event.
     
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    Alveda King is most definitely not following in her uncle's footsteps. She's a conservative. MLK was way to the left of modern day Democrats, but in any case, what do you see as contradicting between what Alveda King and Al Sharpton said?
     
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    I wish that blacks wont react to this dude killing innocent blacks. They will only inflame race relations. I will respect blacks a whole lot more if they overcome this peacefully.
     
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    If the social justice crowd had their way, the laws would be similar to South Africa where it's pretty much illegal for white people to defend themselves.
     
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    Justified by who?
     
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    You should listen to Marvin Gaye's "Whats going on?" Particularly to the part about "understanding." You should start by not calling us supremacists. This only leads to hate. Is this different from the shooter who misidentified his victims as black rapists and criminals?
     
  17. tuhaybey

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    I'm referring to white supremacists. When you say I shouldn't refer to "us" as supremacists, who do you mean and how would you prefer they be referred to?
     
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    LMAO, Al Sharpton talking about new lows in hate. The same Al Sharpton with comments on Jews and Mormons. The same one who started the riots in NYC. The "Tawaney Brawley" Al. He must mean hypocrisy has taken a new low.
     
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    MLK never condoned, or called for violence. Instead he said, "I will never change in my basic idea that non-violence is the most potent weapon available to the Negro in his struggle for freedom and justice. I think for the Negro to turn to violence would be both impractical and immoral". He went on to state, "I will agree that there is a group in the Negro community advocating violence now. I happen to feel that this group represents a numerical minority. Surveys have revealed this. The vast majority of Negroes still feel that the best way to deal with the dilemma that we face in this country is through non-violent resistance, and I don't think this vocal group will be able to make a real dent in the Negro community in terms of swaying 22 million Negroes to this particular point of view. And I contend that the cry of "black power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard. And, what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the economic plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years".
    From those statements and there are there are more, MLK was not a Leftist. The racist Progressive Socialist Left using people like Bill Ayers in the 70's, thugs from the SEIU and from the AFL/CIO to beat people who don't agree with their Marxist policies, then going further by paying anarchists to protest #OWS and #Ferguson and #Baltimore using murder, rape, riot, arson and looting hired and paid by ACORN's successor group Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment ("MORE") .
     
  20. Wehrwolfen

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    Gee, one would have to read the news about a NOLA, LEO Daryle Holloway killed today, and the ambushed Cincinnati police officer Sonny Kim to see who is killing who.
     
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    Right, who do you think is calling for violence now? This was a white supremacist committing a violent act...

    I'm sure you are aware of this already, but just in case you're not- you realize that you're a crazy person, right?
     
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    I am a white guy and have no fear of being attacked because of what that ignorant cracker moron did. You seem to be obsessed with racial conflict. I travel all over this country and I don't see it as a big problem, but rather a few isolated incidents that are blown completely out of proportion.
     
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    Everyone has two definite things, a rectum and an opinion. If you claim that this 21 year old punk speaks for all of white America, I truly believe you are wrong.
     
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    Speaks for all of white America? Dude, are you drinking tonight? You aren't making sense. You keep seeming like you're responding to some other post or something. In your last post you were all upset about somebody calling for violence, but it isn't clear who you thought you were talking to or what you were talking about. Now you apparently think you're responding to somebody claiming that the killer speaks for all white Americans? What?
     
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    "Proportional"?, and "massive harm to minorities"? Oh please...gag me with a spatula! The fact that black on white violence is roughly twenty five times greater per capita than white on black. And has been for decades. It would appear that you have no clue what you are talking about. Not that I doubt your sincerity. But you are simply furthering a morbidly gross fantasy, long proffered by leftist race baiters.
     

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