Sanctuary cities

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  1. CJtheModerate

    CJtheModerate New Member

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    You are totally wrong.

    Which is a bad system.

    Obligatory reference to George W. Bush.

    You'd rather have it so that law enforcement and national security are plagued by infighting and are unable to do their jobs?

    What does any of this have to do with what I said?
     
  2. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are two ways you could be in this country illegally.

    You jumped the border, which is illegal, or you overstayed your visa, which is illegal.

    As for this sanctuary city bull (*)(*)(*)(*)... San Francisco needs to pay for that woman's murder. They released a felon and didn't let anyone know.

    Her murder is on the hands of liberal policies.

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    There are two ways you could be in this country illegally.

    You jumped the border, which is illegal, or you overstayed your visa, which is illegal.

    As for this sanctuary city bull (*)(*)(*)(*)... San Francisco needs to pay for that woman's murder. They released a felon and didn't let anyone know.

    Her murder is on the hands of liberal policies.
     
  3. ballantine

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    Well now, that depends what you consider their "jobs" to be, right?

    No, not infighting. Checks and balances. Look man, there is a reason we had multiple independent intelligence agencies. It's so the President could get an accurate view of what's going on, without being played by any one single bureaucratic structure.

    Remember J Edgar Hoover? There's a perfect example of why we don't want "one" single intelligence agency, or law enforcement agency. J Edgar Hoover should have been behind bars for life, instead of being made "Director for Life". He fabricated evidence, destroyed evidence, altered evidence, and engaged in blackmail and extortion against elected officials.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    If I was mayor, I'd make somebody pay the freight for rounding up illegals and the Fed doesn't seem to predisposed to do that. No tickee/no washee.
     
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    We should, we should, we should. Everybody agrees that local law enforcement should enforce federal mandates. Unfortunately, the federals don't want to PAY to have its own laws enforced. That means the federals would have to raise some cash.
     
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    Agreed. It's a federal responsibility. The city shouldn't even have to be involved, at all. They should handle immigration law exactly like they handle every other kind of federal law. If the locals have evidence of a federal violation, the most common course of action is that they call the feds. They notify the FBI or whichever agency is responsible, and the feds take it from there.

    I think this one's on Obama. He's the one who refuses to enforce the existing federal law.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need a Congress and a President with the "WILL" to cut off ALL federal funds to States that harbor "Sanctuary Cities".
     
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    Kinda like Hillary, Huh?
     
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    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Illegal status is NOT a crime its a civil penalty ,not even a misdemeanor, so why should cities or states go out of their way to do anything unless an illegal immigrant commits a crime. Congress can make it a CRIME then they might have to act on it say a lower grade felony.
     
  10. ballantine

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    It's more complicated that that. The feds claim they issued a "detainer" to SF, but SF claims the law requires either a warrant or a court order. The purpose of the detainer is to give the feds time to obtain the aforementioned warrant or court order. The detainer is actually more along the lines of a "request", it's a "request to detain". If SF decides to ignore it, it can't be "enforced". Enforcement would require a warrant or court order. So, knowing this, knowing that SF does this all the time, 100% of the time, on a regular and ongoing basis, the feds should simply have gotten the warrant. It's not that they "couldn't" do so, certainly not. Are you kidding? Five time deportee facing murder? Sure, keep him. Here's your warrant. No, it's simply that they didn't. So, as I've been saying, this one is on the feds.

    There's a lot of these people, that the feds conveniently neglect to get warrants for.

    A lot.
     
  11. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Holding up a bank is a federal offense should local police officers just stand by and wait for the feds to show? That fact that a city would have a illegal who us a known felon just go on his way and not notify the proper agency makes no sense.
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    So you want local police not to enforce any crimes that are a felony? Just think about what you said. That is one of the stupidest things you have posted here and that is saying alot.
     
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    If you want to hold the city council accountable for sanctuary policy, I can understand that, but why would we arrest the sheriff and police chief?
     
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    Who runs the jails and who is responsible for upholding the law and notifying ICE? I'm sure most of them would cheerfully turn states evidence against the political idiots who are puttin there citizens at risk and making the cops jobs far more difficult in the name of political expedience.
     
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    Who cares, they should all be sued and let the courts sort it out.
     
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    Can't enforce dick if you don't want to pay for it. Remember TANSTAAFL?
     
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    I don't think the locals would mind rounding up aliens if there is money in the budget to do that. Why should I have pay for it at the local level if someone in Rhode Island won't have to.
     
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    Not so easy after all. If you want my border community to round up aliens at the local level, SHOW ME THE FRIGGING MONEY. In the meantime, we'll just continue to put them on buses bound for parts north.
     
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    Remember when the Right were cheering local sheriffs who vowed not to enforce any new federal gun control laws? They didn't seem to have a problem with local law enforcement deciding what laws to enforce then.
     
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    most folks who overstayed their tourist or work Visas, are not criminals.
     
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    The right are such humps. Always looking for that free lunch stuff. Double a cop's workload, give him a 1.5% raise.
     
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    However once deported and then re-entering they are.it's against federal law
    to re-enter after being deported.
    There is no way Obama the magician can undo that.
    I think right now Obama is feverishly listening to his commie czars in
    order to find a way to spin this.Because the democrats are already set to
    start blaming each other.Diane Feinstein has already caved.
    Openly stating that San Fransico no longer should be given Sanctuary status.
     
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    When I become President I will have my attorney general prosecute each and every sanctuary city for Treason.
     
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    I can speak to that first-hand.
     
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    About 9% at a minimum of local money comes form the feds now. And by the way they didn't ask you to go round up more merely to hang on to one for a couple days that you'd already arrested on felony charges. You just let his ass walk and a woman is dead. If that doesn't (*)(*)(*)(*) you off you are morally dead.
     

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