MTV: Watch White People Struggle With Their Whiteness In MTV’s ‘White People’

I must have missed the part of the definition where it said the same percentage of blacks need to be wealthy as whites. If I was looking at those same "percentages" I'd see that there is actually a higher percentage of wealthy Asians compared to whites. So when are you going to start busying yourself trying to help whites become as rich as Asians? Oh, you weren't planning to? I wonder why?

I think you said you came from a dirt poor Jewish family the last time.

 

Given the choice of being blamed for everything by one side or being blamed for nothing on the other what would most humans pick? Neither side is honest, but only a suicidal nut would blame themselves for every bad thing ever done to them.

Inherent racism? Are you alluding to systemic racial inequity?

 

true but it takes amazing strength to admit that it was actually yourself that was the cause of the problems. many whites here utterly fail in admitting it is they themself that is the cause of racism and MTV seeks to get an insight into this fertile ground.

 

It seems a little more layered to me.

I think most young people are just not very aware of their own biases. I don't think most people consider themselves racist, even if they find other races repugnant. They usually try to justify it in some way that absolves them of guilt.

Due to my background I have worked through a lot of (my own) outrageous assumptions about blacks. I am not consumed by guilt or anything ridiculous like that, but I watch my knee jerk reactions and give them a second thought nowadays.

 

Check your history. A "race" did not genocide the Jewish people. I think you failed to notice that it was white Germans killing white Germans, with other nationalities thrown in on both sides of that equation. Meanwhile, it was others of white European stock that fought the other white Europeans to end their killing of other white Europeans.

History was never a good subject for the libs.

 

possibly but if you ask jewish people they dont consider themselves as a white race and neither did the germans for that matter so in essence it was genocide of another race in both of their eyes, your opinion is irrelevant on that matter. the irony is that those same germans (who make up the majority of white america) are now crying and whining about karma. you live and you learn and i say welcome to the world and the effects of your actions, to all germans/crying americans

 

What a pantload of white guilt. Rather than all or your unfounded platitudes and broad-brush silliness, how about we look at a real life subset of this morass. aka Baltimore. Been run by Democrats for over 70 years. Blacks vote 90% democrat. So they is them !! Blacks in office all over. Of the 100 largest cities in America, ranks 3rd in spending per pupil (behind Boston and NYC). Of the 500 largest school districts, ranks 17th in spending per pupil. Received $1.8 B in stimulus money too.

Crime out the ass. Murders. You saw the riots. Dropout rate close to 40%. Illegitimate birth rate over 70%. Slavery sucked, but it is long gone. This is a house of their own building, and has been for multiple generations.

It ain't some white guy's fault. It is the fault of liberals, including 95% of the blacks who vote for this crap. When 95% of your ilk vote for this stuff, it is your own fault.

 

LOL. You better pack a lunch pal

 

ill throw you some crumbs.

 

You cannot invent a new definition for "racism". Germans killing Jews was not a race war.

The karma that we see in the black community is what happens when one embraces the liberal doctrine. Just as Greece is going down the tubes, so has our inner cities for 50 years. "White privilege" is a new concept created by the liberals in the last 15 years. Why ? Because after the War on Poverty, and Affirmative Action, they saw that all they had created was a more FUBAR black community. Enter a new aspect of victimhood: "white privilege".

Harp on WP all you want. It won't fix the black community.

 

Jewish people aren't white now? It's not about "helping minorities get rich," just acknowledging the legacy of institutional racism. Something white people like you seem to get really butthurt about.

 

MTV found some stupid white-guilt liberal spawn to do a self-loathing show about. We have a few libs here that echo the same nonsense and blame "white privilege". For sure, the black community will stay FUBAR. Victim-hood won't fix a thing. Never has. Never will.

Free stuff is running out too.

 

Nuance is not your strong-suit, eh? No one is saying it's some individual white man's fault, but nothing happens in a vacuum. History matters. Of course there are intercultural issues keeping black people down, but we cannot separate that cultural psyche from the very recent legacy of institutionalized racism. The fact is that even today, black people have less access to the institutions that create upward mobility than white people.

 

LOL ... more pantload. 72% illegitimate birth rate. 50% HS drop-out rates. There's your two biggest components of failure in the black community. Its not "institutional racism". Its not any racism. It is liberalism making sure the black community stays stuck on the government teat.

And it won't get better for so long as folks like you blame everybody else, and meanwhile keep the same failed stupidity in place. 60 years of a "War on Poverty". Almost 50 years of Affirmative Action. How'd that work out for the black community ?

Fools.

 

As I said, blame for some people's circumstance will vary from case to case.
Some people have turned their blackness into an asset and they do very well. Others seem to think they are owed
because they are black. That's just human nature.

I got out of school at a time and in a place where "whites need not apply" to a large degree to make up for a system I had nothing to do with.
Is there systemic racial inequality after fifty years of state, federal and NGO policy tipped towards racial equity (which some people think can never be achieved as long as whites live and breathe)?

I don't see it.

 

My "forebearers" were immigrants. Is the past irrelevant? Hell no.. But do i dwell in it.. Again Hell no.

 

Nonsense. Complete nonsense. They drop out on their own. They make babies without some white person putting a gun to their head. A black person can get into any institution of higher learning with lower scores, and more financial assistance than any white can. Do you think that making the standards even lower, and throwing even more money at it, will change anything ? Did you know that 25% of all non-military Federal employees are black ? There's your institutional racism.

 

No thanks, I can feed myself.

 

You're not just "acknowledging" something, though. You're reaching into the pockets of people and taking money for your feel good social redistribution vote harvesting schemes. There are more than enough rich white liberals in this country to truly make a difference in the goal of helping minorities financially. If you guys all collectively decided that you would voluntarily give up money and time to help minorities, a lot could be done. Except study after study shows that liberals are actually less generous with their money and time than conservatives, so this kind of scenario is unlikely to happen. To many of you, your charity work is done by increasing taxes on everyone else. You won't make any personal sacrifices unless you force everyone else to. That's supposed to be respectable?

 

Let me ask you a question: When is the last time you thought about being white? Most of us don't think about our whiteness very often, but minorities have to think about it every day. The point of this show is to point that out and force people to understand others by experiencing the same thing.

 

Did I propose any policy recommendations? No. The most effective policy prescription is improving the economy for everyone in the lower classes.

 

We'll see. Even if the underlying event was a very constructive exercise, MTV has a bit of a reputation for dictating certain types of edits that may not reflect the true reality of what was going down. It is hard to know what nonsense they might pull just for ratings.

I have attended closed workshops like these. It was required of me. Often felt like I had just been a drug addict put through an intervention after each one. They were very constructive; they were very exhausting; and because of the way in which they were done, they would have been very controversial if open to the public. Ours were what happens and is said in the room, stays in the room type situations. There were several of these and they had different themes with different sets of facilitators/panelists. In one on the subject of racial and ethnic stereotypes, it was very weird, because one black panelists was like "If you want to call me a N****, then call me a N****. I won't hit you or even get upset with you" and other facilitators were all PC, "Oh no, we cannot use words like that."

 

Except that's not true. I myself received the maximum in pell grants, and have a black friend in the same social strata that received the exact same amount. You could argue there are more scholarships out there for minorities, but that's private lending. Again, nothing happens in a vacuum. We forced them into the ghettos with discriminatory housing practices, gave them the worst schools and institutions, and are somehow surprised that those same institutions are still dysfunctional.

Also, what money? In red states especially, there has been nothing but cuts to school programs in poor communities. In my home state of Ohio, just today, Governor Kasich announced sweeping cuts to some of the poorest schools in the state. You're living in a right-wing media fed delusion.

 

Do you have a link that documents : "When is the last time you thought about being white? Most of us don't think about our whiteness very often, but minorities have to think about it every day".

"Woe is me" !! Did you ever stop to think that many of us have been on the short end of the stick before, and that rather than descending into victim-hood, which is exactly what you espouse in your post, we worked our way out of it ? We didn't go and make babies out of wedlock. We focused on bettering ourselves instead of dropping out of school.

 

Dwell is not the same as "acknowledge". Let's remember the topic of this OP, a documentary about young white people and the faux-outrage over its exploration of historical themes.