Pin the Tale on the Donkey: Democrats' Horrible Racist Past

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, its a lengthy video but then again so is the democrats history of racism and oppression.
    [video=youtube;5wz_0utCrm0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wz_0utCrm0[/video]


    Heres a thought, if we want to ban symbols of racism and slavery, perhaps we should start with the democrat party.

    The racism continues to today.
     
  2. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    As a proud democrat, I want that tail duly pinned. Insofar as we tolerated endorsed and supported bigotry, segregation and racism, let the truth shine bright. Insofar as we supported and endorsed a change in our leadership, our platform and our ideals, let that truth shine equally bright. History is what it is, and change is what it is.
     
  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thing is its not just history-it continues to today in the highest tiers of the democrat party.
     
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    As it does to one degree or another in any party that has flesh and blood people running that highest tier. We have already established that parties are not run by a computer program. Anyone would have to be naïve to think that no high tier operatives of the democratic, republican, libertarian, socialist workers, or other party will be racist or will allow it to impact their work or views.
     
  5. US Conservative

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    What did you think of the video? Did you find any inaccuracies?
     
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    You don't know the Demonrat response to this? ...... The Democrats of yesteryear are the Republicans of today. Bought and sold and accepted by the entire country.
     
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    Your grasp and knowledgeable of American history is ten miles wide and 1/4-inch deep.
     
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    As well it should be. All you have to do is look at voting numbers before and after the Civil Rights Act.
     
  9. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, somehow non-racist republicans become racist (because leftists say so).
     
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    1. Did not watch the video. 2. It does not need any inaccuracies to still mislead and that would just (*)(*)(*)(*) me off and make me more stubborn and obstinate than reason dictates I should be. I distinguish between historical spin of history and history itself, and I can guess at its contents and agenda. Otherwise it would not be isolating its lasers on the democratic party in the first place,and would not have turn the subject of American racism into a partisan parlor game .

    if we have done our jobs well in American public education, we have given its viewers enough sophistication and critical thinking skills to know the tricks of manipulation involved in these kinds of videos and their impact will be small except to reinforce the faithful believers. Persuasion is not best done with a hammer stroke and a slick edit on history. If we have not done our jobs well in American public education, we are in for serious trouble regardless of the partisan who exploits the weakness.
     
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    history isn't transferable from one party to another
    your logic would be the same as me claiming if many Germans moved to Poland and many Poles moved to Germany Poland will become the country that started WW2
     
  12. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not misleading to highlight a long and repeated pattern of racism and oppression.

    The video might give you some perspective, but then again its easier not to watch I suppose.
     
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    The Democrats of yesteryear actually passed away with old age. Just like what happened to all of the Reagan Democrats. I'm willing to bet most have died of old age.

    You are aware there were three or four different KKK's. The original Klan that was organized right after the Civil War during the Reconstruction era in the South. They targeted not so much blacks but the Northern white "carpetbaggers" and Southern white Republicans who were known as "scalawags." The Klan died out when the Union Army and carpetbaggers went back home.

    The rebirth of the KKK happened not in the South but in the North in particular the state of Indiana in 1915. This is the Klan that most people think of, lynching of blacks, burning of crosses and the majority of the KKK were northern Democrats and progressives. But the new Klan had new targets, Jews, Republicans and immigrants. Most Klan members were in the North and Democrat states. This is when the KKK became the militant arm of the Democrat Party and would remain so until the late 1960's.

    The first known incident when the Klan displayed the Confederate Battle Flag was in or around 1948 or 1949 not in the South but in California. But the Klan died out soon after.

    Today's KKK are just a very small number of stupid hopped up kids who hide behind the KKK label and a battle flag. They are neo-KKK less than 1/100th of 1% not like the Klan of 10 million during the 1920's who were mostly northern Democrats.
     
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    history is not transferable, but that does not mean it can't be complete with context, depth and objectivity as its goal. Cherry-picking is for scaredy cats, or propagandists.
     
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    Democrats have a racist past. This is because Democrats were the most conservative party. This changed in the 60s and since then, Democrats have been the most liberal party and have led the way to the wonderful steps towards equality that we're seeing today.
     
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    It is misleading if the highlight is focused on only one pattern when the quilt of history actually has several patterns intertwined and repeating throughout. This video will not tell me anything about a perspective I have not seen before and as for the tactics, I have seen propagandists do their work plenty of times.

    You are right that it is easier for me not to watch, because I am more able to discuss these issues dispassionately, when I have not allowed someone to spend several minutes trying to manipulate me. Its less likely I will push back, if I have not been shoved in the first place. This video was a shove.
     
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    Well bitthegreat, they no longer teach historically correct history but PC revisionist history.

    Most young Americans were taught or believe that Lincolns Emancipation Proclamation ended slavery. Not true, it was a military strategy that failed. The Emancipation Proclamation was a threat to the CSA to stop fighting, rejoin the Union or the federal government will declare all of the black slaves in ten of the eleven southern states as free blacks.

    It was the 13th Amendment that ended slavery throughout all of America. And it seems many northerners or at least Congress didn't want to end slavery and passage of the 13th Amendment failed. The PC revisionist don't teach that there were black slaves in the North and don't teach that the 13th Amendment failed being passed in Congress the first time it was voted on.

     
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    Former KKK Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd was so important to the Democrat party, in 2010 he became only the third senator to lie in repose in the Capitol rotunda..........and the only one since 1957.
     
  19. btthegreat

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    I agree with your interpretation of history above, but not of education. I think you have the motive wrong. this isn't about 'pc' history so much as its about history written in shorthand and taught the same way. There isn't enough time to teach nuance, depth and accuracy, so they teach 'cliff notes' history that trade clichés for truth, and turn men into caricatures'. It is all easy to digest in a couple of weeks and insofar as that works to mislead, it is as dangerous as deliberate propaganda.
     
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    What happened during the 1960's was when splinter groups of Communist Party USA like the SDS, Weathermen/Weather Underground and the "counter culture movement" slithered into the Democrat Party and hijacked the party. They have a socialist/Marxist agenda and they need to keep minorities down and keep yelling racist to achieve their agenda. Agitate the black and Hispanics as Saul Alinky would teach. Over load the system with free stuff (entitlements) as in the Cloward-Piven Strategy, keep importing poverty with open borders and uncontrolled immigration or just don't enforce our immigration laws. Instead of blaming the murder of nine blacks on an individual who pulled the trigger, point to a battle flag. While at it point out that an AR-15 is black and scary looking so it must be evil.
     
  21. US Conservative

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    lolz thanks for reminding us of the lefts dogmatic script.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So true. And then there are the strikingly racist comments from democrats like Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, LBJ and so on. Plus the narrative that republicans want to put blacks "back in chains".

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    When that history is shortened and deliberately revised to change ones impression there is indeed a motive.
     
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    Unless you're older or a history buff, many don't remember or know how bad of a president Johnson was. Not quite as bad as Obama but definitely up there on any worst president's list I would compose.

     
  24. US Conservative

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    Im not surprised. His war on poverty haunts us till this day, and it was intended to keep blacks on the democrat vote plantation.
     
  25. btthegreat

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    Ironic that that is how I see your video!
     

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