House bans GMO labeling

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry, that is not how debate works. I don't research your claims. I am skeptical. Many of these anti-gmo people are bat(*)(*)(*)(*) nuts. I have read a little about it, and it seems like the same people that claim gluten is put in wheat to control your mind.

    So I will remain skeptical.

    How are people getting screwed?
     
  2. Woogs

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    Yeah, Scientific American and MIT are known to be bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/weed-whacking-herbicide-p/

    http://organicconnectmag.com/project/mit-study-questions-monsantos-safety-claims-for-roundup/

    Eat up!!
     
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    No one has ever been harmed by a GMO. No one. We shouldn't force labeling for something that causes no harm. If companies want to label their own food gmo free to attract hippies and people easily spooked by internet conspiracy theorists then more power to them. If you truly want to avoid GMOs it's very easy. Because fact is if food is GMO-free you better believe they'll tell you about it so they can profit off the gullible health fad conspiracy theorists. Hook line and sinker.
     
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    "Round-up ready" is a term used for seeds that have been genetically modified to accept Roundup without being killed. If you spray Roundup on non-GMO plants, you will kill them.

    Some GMO foods may be safe, as GMO doesn't automatically translate into meaning Roundup-ready, such as the apples that don't turn brown as quickly once cut. In large part, however, and what most are worried about are the Roundup-ready crops, which is a large part of the whole GMO business.
     
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    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/13/monsanto-and-foreign-aid-forcing-el-salvadors-hand/

    U.S. foreign aid is expectedto promote poverty alleviation and facilitate developmental growth in impoverished countries. Yet, corporations and special interest groups have permeated even the most well-intended ofU.S. policies.

    El Salvadoris a recent example of corporate domination in U.S. foreign aid. The UnitedStates will withhold the MillenniumChallenge Compact aiddeal,approximately $277 million in aid,unless El Salvador purchases genetically-modified seeds from biotech giant, Monsanto.[1] The MillenniumChallenge Corporation is “a U.S. foreign aid agency that was created by the U.S. Congress in January 2004,”[2] accordingto Sustainable Pulse, and serves as a conduit forforeign aid funds. MCC’s unethical aid conditions would force El Salvadorto purchase controversial seeds from the American biotech corporation instead of purchasingnon-GMO seeds fromthe country’s local farmers[3] – an action that would have negative effects on El Salvador’s agricultural industry in addition to presentingserious health and environmental risks.

    The conditional foreign aid from MCC is an attempt to break into El Salvador’s non-GMO agricultural sector and exploit the food market. Because El Salvadorhas high food insecurity, it imports 85% ofits food. This allows U.S. foreign aid organizations to take advantage of the dire need for theirown monetary gain. The United States used similar aid policies in Haiti to force open Haiti’s agricultural market forU.S. foodproducts –effectively destroying Haiti’s agricultural economy and creating an overreliance on foodaid.[4]

    However, at least one ranking individual is pushing back against predatory aid in El Salvador. Ricardo Navarro, President of the El Salvadoran Centerfor Appropriate Technologies, states, “I wouldlike to tell the U.S. ambassador to stop pressuringthe Government (ofEl Salvador) to buy ‘improved’ GM seeds,” and hopes that the El Salvadoran government does not bend to U.S. pressure.[5]

    El Salvadorrecently banned glyphosate and other chemicals in September2013 – at the same time the MCC stopped the aidpackage process until “’specific’economic and environmental reforms were made.”[6] Glyphosate herbicide is a fundamental chemical for Monsanto’s genetically-modified crops,but poses serious toxicity concerns.[7] As a result,El Salvador appears to be the most recent victim of U.S. ‘trade wars’ against countries that oppose Monsanto.[8] France –who was working to ban a Monsanto crop – was “requested to be ‘penalized’by the United States foropposingMonsanto and genetically modified foods.”[9] Hungary and even the Vatican are also targeted by U.S. foreign policy forbeing anti-GMO, according to documents released by Wikileaks.[10] Despite Monsanto’s GMO crops that pose serious health and environmental risks, U.S. officials continue to push Monsanto’s agenda in domestic and foreign policies.

    Due to powerful lobbying by corporate giants like Monsanto, in addition to the shippingand agricultural industries,the U.S. government’s foreign aid program has become an encroaching business. Just when the U.S. foreign aidprogram couldn’t appear to be more corrupt, the Millennium Challenge Corporation, U.S. Congress, andMonsanto have raised the bar.
     
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    How does the crop being round up ready harm people?
     
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    Having Roundup sprayed on it, leaving residues that get into the food, is the problem.

    No reason to buy Roundup-ready seeds if you don't intend to use Roundup.
     
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    Well that is why you wash your produce before consumption.
     
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    Or it's all produced by the same company including the fear conspiracy in order to charge double for the same product. Because everyone that wants to make money is looking out for the consumer.
     
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    You can't wash off what's in the plant tissues.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    well any pesticides would get into plant tissue
     
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    Hate to tell you this but vegetables are just chemicals. If you can't tell the difference between a tomato from Canada or one from Mexico (where many of them come from) or a GMO tomato, there is not much difference.
     
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    I'll take more detail as to whats in my food, as long as they remove the Spanish to make the room on the label, NOT reduce the font size.
     
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    Farmers and botanist have been modifying the genes of plants and animals ever since they figured out cross pollenization and cross breeding this is just a more efficient way of doing it.
     
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    It's not a matter of shame, it's a matter of the wide spread fear mongering from activists and their influence on low information consumers being scared away from products with a GMO label.
     
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    Try to keep up.
     
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    No, not really. Do you know what a glyophosphate is? (A "glyphosate"?)
     
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    Exactly. It is designed to fight diseases, and increase yields.
     
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    didnt think so
     
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    Circumstantial evidence is building that all walks of Government are on the take. Sickening that the military has not thrown all the bum out so We can elect new officials that might not be corrupted to the bone yet.
     
  22. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well I know from the name it has a glycerin atom and a phosphorus atombut that's all.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Glycerine is not an element, therefor there are no such things as
    glycerine atoms, only glycerine molecules.

    Just sayin'.
     
  24. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Excuse me, sugar. Chemistry was a longtime ago
     
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    Sometimes the ignorance of people is amazing. Please, please provide a link are something that shows there is a plant and animal gene spliced together. I will be waiting. My guess is you will ignore this post and continue to post idiotic statements.
     

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