70% of the border-surging illegal aliens fail to appear for hearings.

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    They are bills submitted to the U.S. Congress for specific areas of the country, as you asked. Show me at least ONE Republican bill set forth in the U.S. Congress that directly aims at solving this immigration problem.
     
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    I'll give you credit for trying but this bill; House GOP Passes Immigration-Related Bill That Goes After Dreamers does NOT address the problem of illegal immigration in this country, to wit;

    "The ENFORCE Act, which passed 233 to 181, isn't about immigration exclusively. Instead, it goes after Obama for alleged overreach on a variety of issues, including Obamacare, education and drug laws. The bill would allow Congress to sue the executive branch for allegedly failing to enforce the law, and it could lead to the dismantling of a key policy protecting some undocumented immigrants."

    "The move was a far cry from the votes on immigration reform that Democrats want, and stood in stark contrast to the immigration principles put forward by House Republican leadership in January. While those guidelines called for young undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children -- often referred to as Dreamers -- to receive eventual citizenship, the bill approved Wednesday could end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy that keeps the same people from being deported."

     
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    :roll: The comment I made about the gene pool was sarcasm, mocking the bigoted attitudes many on the right have toward the poor these days. And I would point out that dismissing an argument is not the same as refuting it. I'd say in general that if you consistently dismiss a cogent, sourced argument instead of refuting it, you are implicitly admitting that you can't refute it.

    "If you want our laws followed you're a nativist or racist."? Well now, that very much depends on the laws in question, doesn't it? For example, I think it's safe to say that in the 1950's, someone wanting the segregation laws enforced was a racist. The current immigration law is unjust and immoral, and is a form of institutionalized racism. Hiding behind an excuse of, "But I just want the laws enforced," is the refuge of a coward and a scoundrel. Of someone who knows that what they are doing is morally wrong but doesn't have the guts to face up to it. It's about on the same level as, "But I was just following orders." If you want to make a case that the immigration law isn't racist, then answer my original question and give me one good reason we shouldn't be welcoming these folks with open arms.

    Incidentally, nativist and racist mean the same thing in this context.

    "...if illegals were so anxious to learn English, I wouldn't see them speaking Spanish in public or those who mow my lawn wouldn't look at me like a puppy when I ask them a question in English." Oh really? So you think that anyone who wants to learn a language can do so without any teaching or help and be fluent in a few days or weeks? So tell me, how many languages do you speak? Perhaps you'd like to demonstrate how easy fluency is by posting a reply to this in perfect Japanese by, oh say, next Friday? And then in Farsi by the Friday after and Swahili after that? Oh and don't forget Gaeilge - I'd love to watch you attempting that.

    Actually, some of the people who live in the apartment across the hall from me are Spanish speakers. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if some of them were undocumented. They're nice friendly folks. You could learn from their example.

    Hmmm, if we assume the person you had a traffic accident with was actually an undocumented immigrant, then you don't suppose that that person driving without insurance and with an expired plate couldn't possibly have anything to do with a law that would make them liable to deportation if they tried to get proper insurance and registration, could it? Sorry, doc, but you don't get to complain about a problem that you created.
     
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    Lost In America
     
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    Out of context and off topic, try again.

    I gave you a whole list of them. :roll:
     
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    While you're worrying about the ones coming here, I'm worried about the ones who have always been here. You know, like the welfare queens of the rich who get tax cuts that only go overseas to become tax shelters drawing interest that the Right-wing promotes. Or all the farm, sports, and politician billions the Right loves to give away at taxpayer expense; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwJt4bcnXs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb0UNRl-paQ
     

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