Kerry says Congress veto of Iran deal would be 'ultimate screwing of ayatollah'

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  1. Margot2

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    You mean if you're an American and you don't want another war?
     
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    Where do you get the idea that this agreement is needed to avert a war?
     
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    Well, almost all countries in the world welcome to the Iran nuke deal, except that Israel and some small Arab states which are less than 1% of world population! But Most of US congressman, at least republicans, are against this deal. Why? because all of them are supported or threatened by Zionist lobby such as AIPAC to follow their intentions. Maybe this deal will be rejected by congress for Israel, but it will put the US in bad situation and Iran condition will be better than before deal! At that time you will lose your credibility more in the world for the issues which are not related to the US ! So it is better to control your stupid puppet congressman more than before!

    But about the Saudi Arabia, yes we are the enemy of all puppet dictatorship regimes in the ME!
     
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    Im sure it makes you feel better to believe that, but they oppose the agreement because its a lousy deal and they despise the Irannian government and people who support them. Government led rallies with 10s of 1000s of Iranian citizens chanting death to America doesnt do much for your image over here. Makes me want to organize a DEATH TO IRAN! rally.
     
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    Ensuring that Iran will not produce a nuclear weapon for at least a decade is detrimental to Israel? Sorry but that is so absurd as to make no sense at all.
     
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    Actually, under the previous deal they could never produce a nuclear weapon. And nothing is ensured under this deal
     
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    Sen. Chuck Schumer who hopes to become Senate Minority leader, has said that he will vote AGAINST the Iran deal. This is big because he carries a lot of weight with the Senate Dems. Good for him for voting his conscience.
     
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    That's because a large percentage of Czechs were Germans.
     
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    The Saudis are not allies of Israel no matter what Israel has been saying for the past 12 years.
     
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    Correct. The agreement is for the US, France, Germany, Britain, China and the EU. The ban would be for Israel. Which is why the U.S. will put and end to the agreement.

    This world is ALL ABOUT Israel and it doesn't mind antagonizing and isolating the U.S. from its best allies. Just ask Chuck Schumer. This world is ALL ABOUT Israel, doncha know.
     
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    I don't quite agree with that. They are not concerned in the least with better alternatives.
     
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    Why, Obama said so. No deal, and we're going to some kind of war.
     
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    This congress abdicated its authority long ago.
     
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    The agreement does nothing to prevent Iran from building a bomb, they will build it if and when they want to build it, on their own schedule, any agreement notwithstanding. All the agreement does is providing Iran with unexpected windfall.

    How many International agreement were broken by Iran up to date? Would you like me to tell you?
     
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    That's completely untrue on both counts. :roll:

    Republicans oppose the deal, and one of the reasons is because there are better alternatives. The same thing goes for the vast majority of Americans, who oppose the deal 57-28% and recognize 58-30% that it will make the world less safe. On top of that 77% of Americans support one of the better alternatives, which is maintaining and/or strengthening the sanctions and bans against Tehran.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Ali Khamenei's bootlicker in the White House refused to submit his sham deal to Congress in the form of a treaty because he knew full well that if Congress was given the opportunity to exercise its authority it would never commit treason along with your Dear Leader.
     
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    I haven't heard any reliable sources make that claim. I gave up believing anything Israel says years ago. We got all our Iraq intel from Israel. It ain't worth spit.

    Since we already have a strong military presence (we have enough of a military presence in the Persian Gulf alone to decimate Iran by lunch time today), the deal should work, right?

    We have aircraft carriers carrying hundreds of nuclear bombs waiting to be loaded onto strike aircraft and submarines with a 150 nuclear warheads each standing right off Iran's west coast. Satisfied?
     
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    Baloney. There are safeguards all over that agreement; inspections up the wazoo and severe limitations on Iran's ability to produce weapons-grade materials.

    AND, I can remember the right's certainty and Iraq would be dumping mushroom bombs all over us if we didn't invade NOW. Utter, sheer, hysteria. I wasn't fooled the first time around.
     
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    Iran doesn't feel it has to abide by international agreements Israel won't even enter into. I can tell you that.
     
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    What's stopping Congress from exercising its authority? lt has the AUTHORITY to exercise its authority. All it needs to do is get together and reject the deal/agreement/treaty.

    Fact is, the Congress has abdicated. It is a gutless POS social club. Time for their mani-pedis.
     
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    Get a clue. It's not a treaty. Ali Khamenei's bootlicker in the White House refused to submit it to Congress as such.

    Fact is, you need a bigger shovel.
     
  23. Albert Di Salvo

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    You seem like an Obama supporter.

    Actually, the Iranian theocrats call America the Great Satan, and threaten America with death. America is the ultimate target of Iran. Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt will have to develop nuclear weapons and ballistic missile systems in order to place Iran under an existential threat. A nuclear arms race is about to begin. Sooner or later someone will make a mistake.
     
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    Why does Iran enter into agreements they feel no need to abide by? Israel didnt enter into the agreement because they felt they could not abide by it.
     
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    well then republicans can shoot down the deal... then we will see how that works out
     

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