Jeb Bush POTUS campaign appears dead in the water

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  1. Denizen

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    Jeb Bush has dropped to 7% support with Scott Walker in equal 6 th place. Bush appears dead in the water and there is probably no recovery from here unless Trump and five others above him tank.

    Goodbye Jeb. Can't say it was nice knowing you.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/new-poll-shakes-up-gop-ra_b_7968588.html

     
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    We can only hope..... Now lets see the D's do their part and end the Clintons.
     
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    B-But then they'd have . . . nothing. Hahahahahahaha . . . sweet!
     
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    I think that many of us, Left and Right, look at the political machines that ran this country for many years -- and reject them now.

    As a hard-Right economic Conservative, I'm very suspicious of the Bush machine... and perversely enough, would find more of benefit to the country today in the Clinton machine -- except for the fact that it wouldn't be Bill leading it. Hillary is a doctrinaire, hyperliberal extremist, left over from the hippie-chick days... brimming with wild-eyed, socialist dogma, to be thrust on a Middle Class America reeling and punch-drunk from eight years of Führer Obama! With Hillary, it will be "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY".

    But Bush? Well, maybe I've just grown too cynical. Having a deceitful, jive-ass clown like Obama in the Presidency for eight years has left me despairing and very distrustful. And although we on the Right should look at anyone else who isn't an America-hating Socialist as some kind of "brother", I just don't feel the love for the Bush's. Between "Daddy" Bush and his idiot son, "W", we've seen one economy-altering bailout and "rescue" after another, launched, and re-launched. We've seen the negligent financial sector "captains of industry" get off scott-free and make even larger piles of money after being saved from the consequences of financial train wrecks that they caused! This was all done by the Federal Reserve combine, but it was always initiated during Bush administrations! IMO, they were all in it together... "as thick as thieves".

    Now we're hearing the Jebster starting to mouth some increasing familiar "Republican" themes, like cutting Social Security benefits to people who have EARNED them. We've heard similar things from "Crusader Rick" Santorum, and Governor Butter-tub Christie, who are solid, single-digit contenders....

    Truth? I'll probably end up voting for this stupid, negligent, old socialist hippie-chick instead of any Republican if that's what it takes to avoid being robbed of benefits I have EARNED! And there are approximately 80,000,000 other Boomers out there who feel the same way -- and who VOTE....
     
  5. merrill

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    Jeb is sitting on tons of dough which means the right wing American Legislative Exchange Council wants Jeb in place. More home loan scandals
    are wanted by the ALEC folks and Jeb has plenty of experience in turning blind eyes. Fraudulent home loan activity is making some folks a lot of
    dough.

    Remember Jeb and cousin George Walker were conveniently on the Lehman Bros payroll when it went belly up.
     
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    Thank god, maybe the dems will show a little dignity and unload Hillery. That was a joke, dems have no dignity.
     
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    Well seeing as his official platforms seems to be "pick up were my big bro left off." I'm not that surprised he is dead in the water.
     
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    Eight years ago, Rudy Giuliani was leading in the polls. Look how that worked out.
     
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    I thought Obama already handled that task..quite well,even.
     
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    You severely underestimate the Bush camp. They are masters at elections, they are very connected and they have tons of money, its still way early. Wait until they start digging into Trumps past to try and find (or fabricate) things he has done illegally in business deals or ways he swindled money from investors or things he did that violated SEC regulations in some sort of stock deal or pay some former Miss America contestant to come out and say he made sexual advances towards her etc...Its coming.
     
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    ...and 4 years ago at this time, Herman Cain was leading the polls. Polls this early are a bit meaningless, especially with such a small sample size. 414 POTENTIAL Republican voters?
     
  12. Zorro

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    August is a slow political month, let's check the average of the polls at Real Clear Politics to see how the early primary contests are shaping up:

    IOWA Cacui - GOP 1. Trump, 2 Carson; 3 Walker
    NH - Trump, Bush, Kasich
    SC - Trump, Bush, Carson
    FL - Bush, Trump, Rubio

    Dems:
    IOWA - Clinton, Sanders, Biden
    NH - Clinton, Sanders, Biden
    SC - Clinton, Sanders, Biden
    FL - Clinton, Sanders O'Malley

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/early_primary_state_polls.html

    On the Dem side, they are deeply locked into Hillary. If she falls and Biden jumps in, I think her pole position will move to Biden and Saunders will remain about where he is, second place and a long ways from first place.

    On the GOP we have a much more fluid situation:

    Trump could take the first two state primaries, with Bush coming in second and then Bush takes him in the 3rd state, the critical state of Florida.

    This is followed by Super Tuesday, a multiple state effort with a lot of delegates and the candidate's ground game is very important. I'm sure Bush will have folks in place and the structure to pull this off, will Trump? As of now, he hasn't started putting that kind of organization on the ground together.

    Trump has done a great job talking his way through the early part of the process, picking up a lot of free press, but at some point he is going to have to pull some serious money out of his pocket, and hasn't yet.
     
  13. PeppermintTwist

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    So the huge crowds of Democrats that are showing up at Sander's events are figments of our collective imagination?
     
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    I can only hope that Sanders gets the nomination from democrats. The vast majority of Americans believe in our free and capitalist society, and Sanders is a socialist, so bub bye Bernie
     
  16. Gatewood

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    Pretty much with the array of exclusive Angry, Old, White clowns the dems have as both known presidential contenders and potential presidential contenders the party might as well just concede the 2016 election here and now. Sanders is a freaking socialist, Hillary is openly corrupt, Joe Biden is senile, John Kerry just finished helping Obama shaft the United States with the Iran Nuclear 'deal', and Al Gore has all the personality before the camera lens of a moldering corpse. In contrast the GOP has so many good and dynamic candidates that it just doesn't matter who stays in or drops out during the course of their primaries. So . . . yeah . . . bring 'em on!
     
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    GOP fat cat establishment corporate money will keep ! sputtering in the GOP's presidential demolition derby for quite some time, but he actually has Brother Dub's Iraq guru, neocon Wolfowitz, as his foreign policy adviser. That's as close to political hara-kiri as one can get next to twirling the baton in the victory parade through Sadr City.

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    A couple of memorable gems from the architect of the biggest foreign policy diaster in US history:

    "There's a lot of money to pay for this [Brother Dub's Iraq debacle]. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon."

    The US taxpayer didn't have to spend the two trillion dollars on Wolfy's caprice? Such largesse!

    “American and alliance forces will be welcomed in Baghdad as liberators." That would be the day after a KKK rally grovels in adoration of President Obama.

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    Just as progressive fantasists indulge in the pipe dream of the 'reality tv' entertainer Trump being the GOP nominee.



    "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth ..."
     
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    Very good point! I found this interesting graphic showing connections between ALEC and bush, which probably contributed to his fall from grace(?).

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    http://www.pressherald.com/2012/09/01/virtual-schools-in-maine_2012-09-02/

    There is also good evidence that ALEC is working to hijack an Article V convention.
     
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    Good. Now if we can only get rid of Klinton. No more family dynasties. That's something both sides of the aisle can agree on.
     
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    Obama lost Iraq
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/who-lost-iraq.php
     
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    Ain't that the truth

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    Trump won't be the nominee, but his message will.
     
  23. Denizen

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    Gore is still a possibility for Democrats.

    Trump has only just started with his Bush criticisms. When he gets to full force on criticism Bush will wilt. Others will attack Bush too which will hasten Bush's demise.

    Bush does not appear to have much inner strength and has progressed by his family connections.

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    There is still suspicion of Giuliani's role in 911.
     
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    Your post is a patent and blatant lie. You do not know me personally and have no knowledge that "you don't know him".
     
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