After 14 Years The War of Terror Reaps What It Has Sown.

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  1. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nearly 14 years ago al Qaeda suckered the US into doing what it had neither the resources nor ability to accomplish.
    http://www.thenation.com/article/14-years-after-911-the-war-on-terror-is-accomplishing-everything-bin-laden-hoped-it-would/
    " Fourteen years later, thanks a heap, Osama bin Laden. With a small number of supporters, $400,000-$500,000, and 19 suicidal hijackers, most of them Saudis, you pulled off a geopolitical magic trick of the first order. Think of it as wizardry from the theater of darkness."

    That darkness now covers a theater the size of Texas. From Afghanistan to Iraq to Syria millions displaced and hundreds of thousands dead, vast neighborhoods destabilized, and the war continuing with no end in sight, more than 350,000 migrants have crossed the Mediterranean heading for Europe.


    The West is reaping a whirlwind of its on making.
    It needs to stand up or risk being blown away.


    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/09/opinions/west-migrant-crisis-tisdall/
     
  2. CRUE CAB

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    We could "stand up" and wipe every bad guy off this planet within in a month. But the powers that be wont allow it.
     
  3. Margot2

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    That's exactly what the 9-11 terrorists wanted and they succeeded..

    I guess you have read the interviews with the 6 surviving Saudi terrorists.. We have no idea what nationality they were or even what their names were.
     
  4. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you including the bad guys among US citizens like those who pushed for invasions that have created the refugee crisis in Europe?
     
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    No, just the Muslims
     
  6. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven't read those interviews or the missing 28 pages from...
    "The congressional Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001, completed its investigation in December 2002. But the Bush administration stonewalled the release of the 838-page report until mid-2003 — after its invasion of Iraq was a fait accompli — and totally suppressed a key portion.

    "Former senator Bob Graham, D-Fla., chairman of the investigation, declared that 'there is compelling evidence in the 28 pages that one or more foreign governments was involved in assisting some of the hijackers in their preparation for 9/11.'

    "Graham later indicated that the Saudis were the guilty party. But disclosing Saudi links to 9/11 could have undermined efforts by some Bush administration officials to tie Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks."
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/07/06/declassification-28-pages-911-saudis-column/28926283/
     
  7. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been killed since 911, and radical Islam is more powerful in the Middle East than at any time in the last century. Maybe you can't kill your way to Peace?
     
  8. FreshAir

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    and some are worried about Iran getting nukes
     
  9. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Fourteen years later, don’t you find it improbable that the US military has been unable to extricate itself from Iraq and Afghanistan, its two major wars of this century, despite having officially left one of those countries in 2011 (only to head back again in the late summer of 2014) and having endlessly announced the conclusion of its operations in the other (only to ratchet them up again)?

    "Fourteen years later, don’t you find it improbable that Washington’s post-9/11 policies in the Middle East helped lead to the establishment of the Islamic State’s 'caliphate' in parts of fractured Iraq and Syria and to a movement of almost unparalleled extremism that has successfully 'franchised' itself out from Libya to Nigeria to Afghanistan? If, on September 12, 2001, you had predicted such a possibility, who wouldn’t have thought you mad?"
    http://www.thenation.com/article/14-years-after-911-the-war-on-terror-is-accomplishing-everything-bin-laden-hoped-it-would/
    Who can imagine the madness the next 14 years will bring if the US war machine isn't prevented from continuing its policy of regime change across the Middle East and Africa?
     
  10. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you would object to wiping out bad guys?
     
  11. FreshAir

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    with nukes.. yes
     
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    Kinetic rounds >
     
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    Well of course that would be like cutting your finger off to fix a hangnail. Buy what about with drones?
     
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    And posters like this think that radical islam started 9/11/2001...
     
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    All sane people should be; iran is the #1 terror state on earth, and has been de-stabilizing the mideast for decades. Its regime should be tried and hanged for Crimes Against Humanity.
     
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    I don't think you can make that case. Embedded reports, liberals & a corrupt UN prevented us from doing what should have been done, which was kill far more than we did. But hey...whatever you what to believe you will, soooo
     
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    and we wont let them have them..... were the only country to have ever used nukes and intend to keep it that way
     
  18. FreshAir

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    were gonna wipe every bad guy off that planet in a month with drones?

    if we had such power, why two ten plus year wars?

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  19. dairyair

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    One can, but you probably need to kill everyone but yourself.
    But some think killing is the solution to all problems.
     
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    Huh. The USA managed to destabilize it in just over a decade.
    Iran had very little to do with the current destabilization.

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    Good for them. We have no business going around the world killing people.
     
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    No just take the leaders out in a continious fashion. The rest will eventuallu get the idea.
     
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    The US psychopathy is strong in this thread.
     
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    That worked well in Libya and Iraq didnt it... Oh wait.....
     
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    "Bad guy" is a very subjective term here. I mean aside from murderous dictators, terrorist groups, street criminals and the like that also means folks we don't know exist until it's too late.
     
  25. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^^^What is that supposed to mean?
    " Fourteen years later, thanks a heap, Osama bin Laden. With a small number of supporters, $400,000-$500,000, and 19 suicidal hijackers, most of them Saudis, you pulled off a geopolitical magic trick of the first order."
    9/11/2001. and the thousands of innocents who died on that day, were consequences of the same state-sponsored terrorism that has blown a hole through the Middle East since that day, loosing forces that would create the first true terrorist state of modern history.
    http://www.thenation.com/article/14-years-after-911-the-war-on-terror-is-accomplishing-everything-bin-laden-hoped-it-would/
     

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