A Healthy Society DOES execute people.

Britain used to have the death penalty. I am too young to remember it personally, but they had it and it was hanging. I never used to be an advocate for the death penalty, I probably made all the well- worn arguments against it that I will doubtless hear here. It doesn’t matter.


What matters is that I now not only pro death penalty, but I am so enthusiastic about it that I’d extend it to those found guilty of crimes where an actual murder of a person did not take place, but which are themselves so sick and so stomach turning, that a health society would expel them as a body would try to kill a virus.



I fully understand that the DP doesn’t really prevent a scumbag from being a scumbag. I don’t care. What it does definitely do is eliminate that given scum bag.


What’s not to like about that?



I wouldn’t copy the US model entirely. For example, I would not allow people to be strung out on “death row” for years and years, while they file appeal after appeal and work the system. Instead I would seek for the execution to take place within 28 days of the judgement being passed. I also wouldn’t mess around trying to fry them or poison them. It seems like a needless hassle for nothing. I’d personally favour a bullet through the head. Cheap. Fast. Effective.



A healthy and normal thinking society would rid themselves of a savage beast like this “thing” I have highlighted here. An unhealthy one would make excuses for it and pander to it, feed the evil thing, and let it out again.



My minimum negotiating position for this creature would be that bullet through the head, and you can take that as me being lenient. I could think of more fitting ways to deal with this demon, but I don’t want to contaminate my own mind thinking about them;


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This is from the FBI report:


https://www.fbi.gov/houston/press-r...rce=houston-press-releases&utm_content=466680



HOUSTON—A 24—year-old woman from Houston has been convicted of creating and distributing videos depicting the torture and killing of puppies, chickens and kittens, announced United States Attorney Kenneth Magidson. Ashley Nicole Richards entered a guilty plea today, admitting she produced and distributed what is referred to as “animal crush videos.”


People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) defines the “crush” fetish as a cruel and illegal genre of pornography in which women are videotaped or photographed mutilating small animals for the sexual gratification of viewers. In crush fetish materials, women are depicted, usually barefoot or in high heels, stepping on (or crushing), torturing and killing different species of animals, ranging from crawfish, crabs and insects to rodents, rabbits, kittens, puppies, cats, dogs and other mammals.


Under federal law, it is illegal to depict—via photograph, motion-picture film, video, digital recording or electronic image—actual conduct in which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians is intentionally crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury, and is obscene.


This is the first known case to be indicted in federal court since the statute was amended in 2010.

Richards has admitted to creating and distributing videos that involve puppies, chickens and kittens being tortured and killed. The videos are titled “puppy1,” “puppy 2,” “whitechick1,” “whitechick2,” “whitechick3,” “blackluvsample,” “adammeetseve” and “adammeetseve2” and were created at varying times between February 2010 and August 2012.


In the “puppy2” video, which is more than 13 minutes in length, Richards is seen torturing and killing a blue Pit Bull-mix puppy in a kitchen. The defenseless dog’s mouth is closed with duct tape and he struggles as Richards strikes the dog numerous times with a meat cleaver. In the video, Richards chops off one of the puppy’s paws, then hacks at his head and neck. Richards is later seen severing the dog’s head and urinating on its body. In another video, described in court today, Richards steps on a cat’s eye with heel of her shoe.

 

Studies have shown alarming portions of those on death row, or convicted of murder/rape, have been falsely imprisoned.

I don't really interpret my faith to give me authority from my creator to take another's life.

 

How many serial killers convicted and sent to prison for life, later proved to be innocent(in the past 20 yrs say)..?

 

I've always said, 1 to 2 chances at appeal maximum, then a 45 round to the head outside of the courthouse. Cheap, quick, painless — better than what these monsters deserve.

 

It's not like you can make a good and normal person from vermin like that.

 

There are certain crimes where it's clear you're dealing with true sociopaths, and this seems to be one of them. If someone can take pleasure in torturing and killing cats and dogs, while filming it and showing it off to the world, they're beyond hope. Society is better off without them.

 

And for all the Pro-Choice and/or anti death penalty zealots, lets just consider this a REAL REAL REAL late term abortion.

 

I would definitly lock that person a way for life, put I am not pro-death

 

That woman is a terrible person, but I don't know that the severity of her crimes is enough to warrant the death penalty.

 

What's the point in that though? It only costs a fortune and they get used to it.

 

cost more to kill them, and what happens then, people that want to kill themselves but can't, just harm a pet to get the state to do it for them?

why not just pass death with dignity laws, allow people to have dr assisted suicides if they want... even prisoners

why force anyone to live that doesn't want to live

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Why not leave the choice to the victim? Hard in this case, granted.

 

Really? How would you know?

The fate worse than death is to be isolated for life. That is true punishment.

 

How? She (OP) got 7yrs. In Britain a prisoner serves half their sentence usually. If it's the same in the US she will be up for parole in three years.

 

Not necessarily. Charles Manson still sits behind bars.

 

Well, I KNOW. If anyone thinks that killing animals deserves the person being put to death, they are almost as nuts as the person who tortures and kills animals for gratification.

There have been innocent people put to death, by the state, and the numbers over time are perhaps fairly substantial. And that is the most coherent argument against the death penalty, for if only one innocent person was murdered, by the state, that is enough to get rid of the death penalty.

Anyways, the worst punishment that can be given to a murderer is not death. It's to spend the rest of his life inside a prison. Death is an escape, and since everyone dies, it is hardly a punishment.

 

Micheal Vick is still a millionaire, and will become more of one playing in the NFL. He was a millionaire when he engaged in this sick practice of dog fighting, he did it simply for the love of cruelty

Dog Fighting involves death by a very long and slow torture. This is why I no longer support any professional football teams and boycott many of their sponsors. At the least Vick should have served a decade, not one year, been fined all his money and banned from football for life.

 

Some men just need killin. Simple as that. The premise is that a Healthy Society does not to kill people, the fact that we have monsters among us proves we are Not a Healthy Society and as with any mad dog they should be put down.

 

Every society will have monsters. Even a place as peaceful as Norway still had Anders Breivik.

But yeah, some people do need to be put down.

 

Solitary confinement for life is definitely torture, but it's also expensive.

If death row was limited to 5 years and something like 3 appeals, then it would be significantly cheaper than solitary for life.

The optimal route for justice is both swift and cheap for the taxpayer.

 

It shows we still have a ways to develop before reaching our full potential, that is if we don't do ourselves in first.

Sadly, true.

 

That's not an effective argument against the death penalty. I could just as easily point out the many instances of someone with life in prison managing to kill prison guards, nurses, other inmates, or even escaping and putting people outside at risk, as a reason for why we need the death penalty.

 

That is an ineffective counter.
It is so incongruous to watch people cheering for the death penalty, when they balk at the same government running their healthcare. I deny my government the power of life or death over me.

 

They already have that power, over your healthcare.

 

Unless you kill kids or something why would you care?

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And what has that actually achieved?

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Why are they?