I find myself in a very strange position. I am actually grateful to the Liberal Party. They dumped the worst PM we've had and whose cabinet was a bunch of miserable bastards and replaced them with a much better lot. I know the policies are important but my initial response was one of relief that, regardless of Malcolm's background and his immense wealth, ego and all the other things that Newscorp will trot out in its rags, at least the bloke has a brain. I will probably go off on a rant or two during the term of the Turnbull government when it gets going but frankly it's a better thing for the country that Abbott and his gang have gone. Labor is going to have to work hard now. I will be looking forward to a policy battle rather than the sort of personality politics that we've been suffering under the past two years
Well said. My worry with all the wealth Malcolm owns (in certain areas), that a needed shift for our furure direction might be postponed. Talking renewables, eg. However, not being a Liberal fan I have to admit I like the guy. I will give him a chance, and hope that his intellect overules the greedy bit and that he becomes the PM we deserve. Cheerio
Malcolm Turnbull is a nothing man! His best speech so far has repetitively been I will bare face lye to you, but because I have told you I will lye to you, you cant complain when I do! The man stands for nothing, his policies are see if they still like me tomorrow and if they don't I will change the policies so they do. No business and no voter plans their year ahead based on each new morning, they make a stand and go for it!
I'm relieved to see Abbott's crew gone too. I agree with DasEnergy as well. Who knows what he stands for? Probably lining his own pockets.
Di, mate, Labor ALWAYS base their campaigns on personality politics and you can be sure we will get nothing but personality politics (or rather personality assassination) from them again at the next election.
Its a really sobering thought to think the majority of Australians still think their elected politicians are going to help them, and not themselves. An Australian elected Prime Minister can get replaced by 100 politicians in a political party, and Australians are still not waking up to what's going on - simply staggering. Its not to difficult to venture beyond an IQ of 60 to recognise that Australian politicians have done nothing for Australia or the Australian people since the Snowy Mountains Scheme between 1949 - 1974. Forty two years is a long time for elected politicians to have no future plan for a country and its people, and I'm wondering when are the people going to finally wake up and replace "hoping" politicians will do something one day, with "making" politicians do something for their benefit...considering its their tax money that's been wasted for those forty two years, and there is nothing to show for it. Unless you consider the majority of Australian public assets, and a big percentage of Australian agriculture land being sold of to foreign governments and foreign companies as politicians doing something?
Politicians since Rudd have pushed the deceit the majority of Australians elected the leader of a political party. Rudd and Abbott cannot handle they not be a President, Abbott took a Presidential cavalcade to his fund raiser and left to voter to find out the cost next year. It is interesting though to note, more Australian voters are needed to change the leader of the Labour party than the Liberal party requires. Saize something doesn't it!
The majority of Australians seriously believe their ability to vote in an election gives them power. They couldn't be more deluded. The Australian vote is as useless as a piece of paper in the bottom of a budgie cage, as it was just demonstrated, when it only took 100 politicians to change an entire countries elected Prime Minister. If 100 politicians can change a peoples elected PM, then what the hell are the people voting for? I seriously believe that there isn't one politician, who isn't a megalomaniac. TWP TIPS to identify the symptoms of megalomania: Delusion of being superior to others Delusion of greatness Delusion of having great social and political power Lack of empathy for anything Delusion of importance Egoistic Violent tendencies Self centered Want others to be fear of him High self confidence Manipulation over others Exaggerations Feeling of being a famous person Symptoms of mania or paranoid disorder Belief of being a god like figure Bad temper Frequent depressions Mood swings The symptoms fit every politician perfectly.
Abbotts name appeared in one electorate, the AEC deceived the Nation, or someone cant understand the Australian voter does not elect who will become PM, the party does that till the party replaces them with a new party leader!
I think you would be very surprised how many Australians still think they are voting for the individual, not the party. Its called intellect, and having a very basic knowledge and understanding how your countries political system works, something many Australians don't have.
The national party seems to have dominated the coalition arrangement despite less representation and obviously dragged the Libs to the extreme right in their joint quest for power. I think the Libs have to recognise that the Nationals need them as much as they need the nats. What we might see is the liberal party being able to stand on their own 2 feet and rid themselves of the extreme right policies of the Nationals. This could be the changing face of Australian politics and instigate a real battle of policies as you say rather than the major parties having to drag voters into policies they really don't won't. Any little irritation is sending voters back over into the other side of the divide and into policies they don't want. So, I believe most policies will end up being similar but will come down to the big sell. If the Nationals and greens want to play ball then they will have to drop their extreme policies and introduce and negotiate good balanced policy that benefits and appeals broadly. Just my thoughts!
The one thing that has always damaged and stopped the Greens from becoming a major threat to the ALP and NLP is there extreme policies. I have always liked and admired many of the greens environmental policies, and consider them very scientifically sound, but they can never just go that one step further and provide a complete logical plan how the polices will work within Australian. I also agree with their fundamental policy on refugees, but they show no method how Australia can financially support their "open-door" policy on accepting the amount of refugees they want. Australia already desperately needs more schools, roads, doctors, nurses, teachers, hospitals, houses, ect, but the Greens provide no reasonable methodology on how they will raise money to accommodate even more of these listed requirements, as per their policy to increase the acceptance of a greater number of refugees. The greens refugee policy is for refugees to come into Australia, and the Greens just go to the money tree in the back yard and pay for all the additional costs associated with it. They want to tax companies and business to pay for their policies, but how long will these companies and business keep accepting being taxed before they decided to close down in Australia and move to another country where its cheaper? Then where do the greens get the money to pay for their policies? If the Greens ever think a policy through to the end, then they will really challenge the other major parties, but not with their current "hair-brained" ideas. A good start would be to get rig of the dead-wood within the Greens party starting with Hanson-Young, who is doing them a lot of damage by constantly making the whole Party look foolish and immature.
When the countries mainstream media treat its politicians like celebrities, and its citizens like idiots...what can I say?
Fully agree! I too detest Australian media following the American hypo drama election campaign as the way to go!
The gutlessness and stupidity of most people has never ceased to amaze me. It's when I meet a brave intelligent person though, that I'm REALLY taken aback. But they really are dumb enough to focus on whatever drivel politicians are on about.
The Greens were once an up and coming party however their sell out to Coal saw the end of that. Gillard was able to $30 Million cash purchase the greens vote for her Carbon Tax, plus the Greens have the DaS Valve propping up the leg of a table. The Greens are black as they come!
this always happens to far left organizations. They are started by creative people who care but then the progressive thought police move in and take over. Then the organization is just existing to serve itself. the far left and moderate right are allied in bullying and skimming money. Those two parts of the spectrum have zero principles.
I agree that the current batch of Greens politicians have all the ethics and morals of pond scum. However, there seems to be some kind or intellectual deficit concerning all Australians politicians, and their counterparts in other countries. If we use the Greens as an example, there counterparts in other countries seem to be advancing and progressing policy wise, and by gaining votes. Here in Australia...not so good. With all due respect, I sincerely believe dumbarse people will always vote in dumbarse politicians, and here in Australia the shear lack of intellect its being demonstrated every three years on a regular basis. No Australian politician with a brain in their head ever has to raise their hand and say they have a good idea, because the majority of the Australian people are so intellectually stupid, they wouldn't know or recognise a good idea if came up and bit them on the arse. Unfortunately, but this might be the price all Australians will end up paying; for allowing too many intellectually stupid individuals migrate into your country. Australians don't need more unskilled trolley collectors; mine workers, and goat herders, you need professionals, and people with at least a year 10 education. How many current unskilled migrants in Australia go on to get a basic year ten education, one in 10,000? Over 95% cannot even speak or understand the countries language correctly, and you expect them to financially contribute to the countries prosperity
The Nationals are a good example of how much we want to manipulate our future to cover up the thoughtlessness of our past. The Nationals were once believe it or not, my choice for a party. There was a time when I was even a member, a young National, ok you can all stop laughing now. The Nationals truly showed their true colours over the Abbott/Turnbul affair. They told Turnbul that they would support him if he didn't change the Liberal stance on same sex marriage as Abbott had, and didn't support the ALP carbon emission scheme. What a great way to show what you really stand for. Not fiscal policy, not defence, not international relations. I would go as far to say their concern about same sex marriage was the most important. Strange in my opinion since one thing has absolutely nothing to do with politics at all and the other would be of more benefit in the long term. So their decision had nothing to do with what is best for the country, rather it is what makes them comfortable and keeps as much money in their pockets. Good on ya.
Every National Party member is fully aware unless they crawl into the Liberal starfish they are nobodies in a party smaller than The Greens.
Fairly strong Christian constituents, the Holier than thou types. No vision, no progress just tradition.
