Russian Army in Syria

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are posters who will continue to make false statements for their own geo political reasons and allegiances. They seem to work on the precept that if something is repeated often enough, people will believe it.
     
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    Actually, many of the arms that Caliph Ibrahim's death cult have acquired were manufactured and provided by Russia. It will be amusing to watch them turn your guns against your own crappy military. I like it when our enemies start killing one another.

    And while I'm not impressed with people such as yourself who are big fans of Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milošević, the Taliban, Bashar al-Assad, Muammar Ghaddafi, the man in the FSB responsible for the 1999 Moscow apartment bombings (Vladimir something or other) and God knows how many other genocidal mass-murderering psychopaths, I am going to wish your crappy military good luck against ISIS and AQ because you NEED all the luck you can get. Some of the jihadists fighting in Syria are the same jihadists who humiliated your country in Afghanistan, and they're not afraid of Russian soldiers and keyboard commandoes.
     
  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Surprisingly, I read the US was somehow indirectly involved..which doesn't surprise me since our NGO's have been involved in just about every civil strife there is...or at least in countries where it wants a change in leadership and policies.
     
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    Your enemy is unarmed people. Saddam killed 200,000 for 30 years. USA have killed 950 000 since 2002 only in Iraq. In 90th US killed 500,000 children in Iraq.
    [video=youtube;RM0uvgHKZe8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8[/video]
     
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    FYI

    http://www.michaelparenti.org/afghanistan_story_untold.html
     
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    Read the UN report implicating Assad's forces in their myriad war crimes and crimes against humanity. It's available in PDF format and Google is at your fingertips.

    I trust you can handle the truth. It's not like this is the first time Bashar al-Assad has violated the human rights of your countrymen and women. We have Syrian expats living in my country who moved here to get away from Assad's tyranny long before the current fighting began.

    According to the UN, that's because Assad is bombing civilians in those areas and otherwise making life unlivable for them.

    I have no doubt that ISIS is responsible for many of the refugees - no one disputes that. However, Assad has been contributing to the problem, as well.

    I never said Russia was responsible, but as the civilian casualties from their airstrikes mount, they will become part of the problem, too. In fact, I wouldn't put it past Vladimir Putin to exacerbate the suffering of Syrian civilians and encourage more of them to flee to Turkey and Europe. He is not a man of scruples and honor.
     
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    Putin's announcements came within hours after meeting with Obama. Clearly he sized up Obama and decided that he's an idiot and coward. You can say many things about Putin, but the guy's not stupid.
     
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    Between a Russia-Iran-Syria and their radical organizations on one side and ISIS on the other, every country in the region can be turned into chaos and turmoil. Russia will keep ISIS from taking Syria, but otherwise will leave ISIS intact to attack elsewhere for the chaos that brings.

    The weakness of Obama and the EU has created a new cold war. The USA is losing.
     
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    The more young radical, uneducated, impoverished and bigoted Muslim men Putin can push into the EU, the better it is for Russia. If he can push 30,000,000 into the EU, the EU is finished as it is only a matter of time before there is so much disruption and the Muslim baby boom will force the EU to capitulate to any demands. Islam is going to win this crusade.

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    The proof is "we have heard half a million children were killed." That is exactly NO proof whatsoever.
     
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    Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi told France 24 television on Thursday that he had been receiving “massive information” from both Syria and Russia on the Daesh Takfiri militant group.

    When asked if he had discussed with Russia airstrikes in his country, Abadi said, “Not yet,” adding, “It is a possibility. If we get the offer we will consider it and I would welcome it.”

    Meanwhile, senior Russian foreign ministry official Ilya Rogachev said that his country would consider launching the strikes if it gets “such a request from the Iraqi government or a Security Council resolution that depends decisively on the will of the Iraq government.”
     
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    Syrian Army has no presence in Raqqah and a very limited presence in Deir Ez Zor. A large % of the refugees are from this area not because of Assad's actions but because life under ISIS is unbearable. That is a fact. Syrian helicopters are not flying above Raqqah and dropping bombs. It is too far from the nearest base. Most of refugees are fleeing rebel areas and coming to government areas. 80% of population now lives in areas controlled by government. If Assad and the Syrian Army are so bad, then why is that the case??

    You do realize that all the metropolitan Syrians and Christians and other minorities fled rebel territory in 2012. There was a high % of Christians in Raqqah and Deir Ez Zor. Christians made up 20% of Aleppo. They fled to the coast a long time ago. Most of the people in Raqqah and rebel territories are terrorists and supporters of terrorists and their families. Raqqah has like 100,000 foreigners, mostly families of jihadis and their children. I support the killing of these families and anyone associated with terrorists. they must be eradicated from Syria.
     
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    Putin is shooting at Syrian rebels - but is he shooting at ISIS?
     
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    That's exactly what I'm talking about, and it's anybody's guess how many of them are already jihadists or jihadist sympathizers.
     
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    Madeleine Albright was US secretary of state from 1997 to 2001. What else need proof?
     
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    I know all blame should be put on Russia for the propaganda benefits and some geo political interests which might or might not have to do with Washington, but guess what? It's not Russia it is Turkey, and they have been swarming the EU with migrants for about fifteen years...just ask Greece.

    The dignitary who held talks for Turkey's entrance into the EU had to tell them to stop the blackmailing. Not that the sultan there would pay attention.
     
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    This is an invasion of Europe far more brilliant that the armed crusade Muslim invasions. So extreme that Europeans themselves are PAYING the invaders to come and promising to take care of them.

    History from Germany and elsewhere proves even a tiny minority that is disruptive can turn a country into chaos and ultimately take it over. Minimally, within 2 to 3 generations, if this invasion continues, many EU countries will effectively be Muslim and the rest total crippled from doing anything but appeasing Muslims.

    Liberalism and their doctrines of "diversity" regardless of how bigoted, sexist, and violent that diversity is will be the obliteration of Europe. I look to the UK to use their being a island to somewhat hold it off, Eastern Europe could quickly revert to "ethnic cleansing" again and it is hard to predict how long Germans are going to put up with this.

    The Northern European countries, while very liberal, also are quite bigoted when the topic is pushed. So it will be interesting to see how this all breaks out. The question is can conservatives use this to recapture government, or will they fail to do so and their countries turn into chaos?

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    She's a fruitcake.
     
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    There's no need to project. We don't operate the way Russia does:

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    That's arts & crafts, Kremlin style - Grozny transformed into an ash tray.

    Your propaganda isn't worth the bandwidth its posted on.

    Saddam was responsible for the deaths of over a million Iraqis, and the U.S. didn't kill anywhere near that number. As usual, dishonest propagandists such as yourself like to credit the number of people killed by Al Qaeda, Saddam's dead-enders and Mookie al-Sadr's death squads to the United States while citing casualty figures such as the one that was conducted by Lancet that was discredited years ago.

    I feel sorry for you. It must be tough living without your beloved Saddam Hussein. Your government tried to prop up that genocidal psychopath and prolong his rule, which would have been handed down to his delightful sons to continue filling the Iraqi countryside with the mass graves of Shiites and Kurds, but it failed. Boo-(*)(*)(*)(*)ing-hoo. Cry me a faux-humanitarian river...:cry:
     
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    LOL

    Grozny 2014

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    Libya before and after American attacks

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    Should we laugh if Caliph Ibrahim's death cult burns YOUR city to the ground and then applaud him after he rebuilds it?

    [video=youtube;BdvUR67nZs0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdvUR67nZs0[/video]
     
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    When words of US Secretary of State is not evidence then
    [video=youtube;fys3MsKMpms]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys3MsKMpms[/video]
     
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    Actually, he was responsible for about 300,000. The lancet was one of only two peer reviewed studies. The exact same methodology was used in previous conflicts that the West was not involved in and their casualty figures were cited by the media without controversy. The Congo being an example. They only became "controversial" in relation to Iraq. Why do you think that might be, Talon?
     
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    We've already been over the Lancet survey's discredited methodology, trout, and I'm not going to make excuses for the people who didn't raise objections to it in other conflicts. They deserve all the criticism that you and others rightly heap on them.

    That being said, the 1 million figure came from an Iraqi who included the casualties from the war that Saddam launched against Iran. I've seen estimates that surpass even that number. For better or worse, we'll never really know how many people died during his reign of terror, just as we'll never know exactly how many people his idol Joseph Stalin killed. Closed societies don't reveal their dark secrets very easily, unless you have a psychopath like Pol Pot who is meticulous about documenting his atrocities.
     
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    Here's a parade in Chechnya honoring Putin on his birthday for saving Chechnya from the terrorists:


    [video=youtube;tQW4iFwOl7c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQW4iFwOl7c[/video]
     
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    Why do you think a peer reviewed study is not credible but the others that were not peer reviewed are?
     
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    My conclusions regarding the Lancet survey in Iraq are based entirely on the merits (or lack thereof) of that one particular study. I don't have any biases for or against surveys that are peer-reviewed or those that are not.
     
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