SS to protect Ben Carson due to threats

There is no correlation.

 

And this fooled Obama and the Secret Service?

 

How many times was the U.S notified of the Hospitals coordinates by doctors without borders and how long did the bombing continue after the U.S. was notified they were bombing a hospital? Ill wait.

 

Indeed, you can say whatever you like, that doesn't mean I'm a dick for not bending backwards to make you feel comfortable...

People shouldn't change their ways to suit others... Those expectations are certainly the core of progressivism..

 

I don't know. You tell me. In war, terrible things happen.

 

So do you think they are hiring and training new agents specifically to protect Dr. Carson?

Oh course not, DOH!

Agents already on the taxpayer's payroll are up to doing the job, thank you very much!

 

Of course people are after Carson... When you're in politics and a national figure there is always someone that wants you dead - it has nothing to do with party affiliation either - it comes with the territory.

 

That IS a valid point, but it also means that more personnel must be reallocated for the protection of the candidates. I am ok with that.

 

How did I guess you would have no idea. Terrible things happen all the time regardless of war. My how your leftists tunes have changed. When Bush did this, you guys said ......what was the term....oh yeah...he was "air raiding villages" and wanted him on trial for war crimes and still do but when Obama does it you defend the action with every cell in bodies. The hypocrisy is off the chart.

 

Wait. Stop. Hold the presses.

The bolded: no

I am not "you guys".

I am one individual, with my own set of beliefs. Don't try to pidgeon hole me, it won't work.
I was not even on this forum during the Bush 43 years, you have no idea what I was thinking, saying or doing back then.
See how that works?

I was honest and told you that I don't know all the details of the bombing because a.) I'm an honest dude and b.) I have other things to do as well. An adult interested in real discussion would have taken that information and reacted differently than you did. An adult interested in a real discussion, if he knew the information, would have offered it. So, now I know a little more about YOU.

Finally, from what you write, I don't think you give a darned about those who died, you only want to use it as a battering ram against the President on a thread that is not even about him. Do deflection much?

Did no one ever tell you that using generalizations only weakens your argument, and substantially at that?

 

The very start of this conversation was analyzing Herman based on Carson, seems reading isnt a thing you do well.

Youre also not game, now you are resulting to trash strawmans and backtracking. Cain was in longer than Carson since your data included a larger time frame. Also Carson has won 2 national rankings not one. Try again.

 

says the guy who just stated I didn't care the innocent people were killed. Hilarious. For the record, I think killing innocent people is wrong no matter who does it. If only Obama put as much effort into checking coordinates as he did planning his Marthas Vineyard vacations 22 people would still be alive right now and that's a stone cold fact. Who did Obama say was at fault for that again? I missed it but Im sure you know.

 

You're making some very reckless assumptions. I'll leave it at that.

 

Oh, my data covers a far larger time frame than just that. I covered all 2012 polls, just like I am covering all 2016 polls...
had you gone to the link, you would have known this.

Carson has won 1 national poll and 3 or 4 state polls.

You say that Cain was in the race longer than Carson. That is factually untrue.
Cain entered the 2012 race on May 21, 2011 and exited the race on December 3, 2011. That's 196 days.
Carson entered the 2016 race on May 4, 2015 and is unlikely to exit the race before December. His campaign is guaranteed to be far longer than 196 days.
As you can see, May 4 comes BEFORE May 21, so there is no doubt that Carson entered the race earlier for 2016 than Cain did for 2012.

Try again.

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Well, it's good to know that you are against killing innocent people. Surely you were also against the Iraq war, then....

 

What part of "anchor baby" do you want me to explain? I really hate repeating myself. The point is, Donald Trump, your front-runner says anchor babies are not American.

I asked for an example, yet you have none, only accusations that I am dishonest about my screen name.

 

You were almost undoubtedly one of the ones shouting the praises of Herman Cain four years ago.

And contrary to your claim, Ben Carson has only come up in the polls in the last two or three weeks.

As for your comment about Fox, it's clear that they got the talking points memo and posted a story that referenced a story that referenced another story in a blog that handn't even posted it yet.

If ever that was a sign of basic incompetence, even in handling an obviously orchestrated campaign, this is it!

And you pathetically suggest that Fox must have "verified it"!!!!! ROTFLMAO!

According to you, Fox had the story first. So, how is it that the could reference a story that didn't yet exist???????

 

Only after no WMDs were found. Feel free to read my historic posts. Prior to that virtually the entire planet believed threats from WMD to be valid, including Hillary and Bill.
Also even during war, when we are given the coordinates of a hospital multiple times and we still bombed it, and continued to bomb for another half hour after being told innocent people were being bombed, it means we did it on purpose. Why? I don't know, youll have to ask Obama, Im sure he will be transparent and tell you who did.

 

Yeah, those racist libs...

 

Just your typical Progressives out in the open....

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Just your typical Progressives out in the open....

 

Cain and Carson are virtually in the same place four years apart. And thier audience is exactly the same too, as is their message.

Red meat far right wing social issue politics wrapped in pablum about the Constitution. Never mind not knowing where Syria is on a map. Just keep those code words and nostrums coming.

At least Cain had a comic book economic plan. Carson doesn't even have that.

Sure, Carson has been around in the campaign longer than Cain was. But this is a guy whose total political clout is based on one speech, which he keeps on giving.

At least Cain knows how to be a lobbyist.

 

I have no objection either, and said so earlier in the thread. Obama was placed under SS protection about this time in 2008. I believe that was a bit unusual at the time, but maybe not so now.

My comment are based on the fact that there is no confirmation of this story anywhere except from Ben Carson's campaign manager, Tucker Carlson, a man who has had his issues with the truth in the past.

It's most likely that if the Secret Service has decided to detail men to the Presidential candidates, Carson is the only one.

Yet it's very obvious that Carlson planted this story in an eager and willing right wing blogosphere to promote the idea that his client had recieved "off the charts" death threats.

This appeals to a certain audience, as you can see all over this thread.

 

I have no objection either, and said so earlier in the thread. Obama was placed under SS protection about this time in 2008. I believe that was a bit unusual at the time, but maybe not so now.

My comment are based on the fact that there is no confirmation of this story anywhere except from Ben Carson's campaign manager, Tucker Carlson, a man who has had his issues with the truth in the past.

It's most likely that if the Secret Service has decided to detail men to the Presidential candidates, Carson is the only one.

Yet it's very obvious that Carlson planted this story in an eager and willing right wing blogosphere to promote the idea that his client had recieved "off the charts" death threats.

This appeals to a certain audience, as you can see all over this thread.

At this point, it has been seven hours since NoiseMax put this story up, and there has been no hint of confirmation from anyone. But the right wing trash blogs have all brayed the story to their audiences like faithful sheep.

 

What makes you think the threats are coming from liberals? It isn't like Trump hasn't had his lawyer storm into a media site threatening people for daring to use his ex-wife's deposition testimony against him in their divorce. The right has more hotheads than they left, and more hotheads with guns to boot.

 

I don't expect that. I appreciate who speaks frankly and clear [for the record I'm a Conservative].

This said, coming to the discussion ... I would add some general considerations about the protection of politicians [or "potential politicians"].

Usually it's a quite sensitive matter for the electorate, since if the politician doesn't need [sometime doesn't deserve] such a protection, it's easy that they will accuse the politician or the authority entitled to protect him [in this case the US SS, meaning Secret Service] to waste the money of the tax payers.

In this context we are talking about persons running to become presidential candidates, so that they are politicians [or future politicians, if we want] with the perspective to access [eventually, winning the competition] to a really important institutional role.

To ensure the security of these persons [Mrs Clinton included, of course], in my opinion is a duty for the Secret Service, since it means to ensure the correct and free development of the political process which will carry the country to the election of the new President.

 

In the United States SS means Secret Service and no one associates it with the Waffen-SS...