Obama administration will reject Keystone XL pipeline

all Keystone ever was is a political football blown completely out of proportion to it's importance. As this map shows, it will not affect Canadian shale oil delivery one way or the other. Of course partisans on both sides of the aisle believe anything their dear leaders and the media tell them while never bother researching the facts for themselves



form the page http://sites.psu.edu/ebatemanhiking/2013/03/02/keystone-pipeline-xl/

 

I don't ever talk about free market economics.. but I do know the oil business. Keystone isn't needed.. We have a glut of oil on the market already and are currently storing a million bpd.. Think about that.. Its a loser's deal to store oil above ground.. Do you understand "just in time inventory"?

Do you understand that most of our oil imports come from Canada and Mexico?

Do you understand that Obama doesn't control oil production or prices?

 

Which is why democrats oppose it - because their friends will lose money.

This pipeline only helps the little guys and those that benefit from true capitalism - not the big guys that make their money off manipulating markets and crony capitalism..

What side you think Obama is on??? It's very obvious given his position...

 

What? That's crazy.. Keystone would NOT benefit anyone.. not Republicans nor Democrats nor the "little guys"..

 

Thats funny because back in the 70s under Carter the libs were telling us we were running out of oil and thats why we needed alternative energy. Now your claiming we have too much oil and using it and thats why we need alternative energy. Its the same crap you guys spew on AGW. Its like "heads I win tails you lose"

 

If you know as much as you claim then why do you ignore ignore that there is an existing Keystone pipeline already and the surplus is being shipped by the BNSF railway which is owned by Obama supporter Warren Buffet. Of course as this article points out Buffet makes money one way or the other

BNSF has ramped up its operations there dramatically, now moving 600,000 barrels of oil per day (once refined, that’s enough to fill the gas tanks of 1.35 million cars), more than ten times the amount moved in 2010.

Rail has emerged as an alternative to pipelines, offering a faster means of shipping crude–though perhaps more risky, as a recent spate of oil car accidents has shown.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackoma...uffett-is-still-bullish-on-rail-and-keystone/

 

Define a need... One could argue you only need blood to live..

I want a healthy economy and the pipeline would make North America dependent on our own oil.. Now do you want to pay 2.50 for a gallon of gas or 75 cents?

You want to see crony capitalism go away? I do and major players in oil are responsible for crony capitalism...

Funny how the democrats were all like "these are wars for oil" but when I'm for a pipeline to be self sufficient in oil you oppose the idea.. I'm convinced democrats just like to argue and will sacrifice economy just to do it while the elitists profit..

 

Yes thats why their selling off part of the strategic oil reserve. Another brilliant move.

 

I have to wonder if the main reason Democrats are against it is because it would benefit Texas more than anyone

 

They will take any position if it means they can go against something...

You're talking about people that live to protest.

They could find a reason why drinking water is bad... "man there was this woman one time who held her wee for a wi and died due to an electrolyte imbalance and therefore water is bad - it's science"..

 

Do we need one? Gas prices are super low right now.

 

The same thing those you guys want to have fix infrastructure will do when those temporary jobs are done. This is just another infrastructure improvement that you should favor as it is more environmentally safe than other methods of transport.

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That wouldnt have anything to do with an embargo would it?

 

Transporting the oil by 18 wheelers will be much safer. And better for the environment, too.

 

It would benefit everyone...

There will be no losers, well except for those that practice crony capitalism..

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Isn't it funny..

 

So your claiming it will provide no jobs at all

 

not sure what it is supposed to do that existing pipelines are already doing. Did you bother looking at the map I posted showing the existing and proposed pipeline, biggest difference I can see is the leg that leads down to the Texas refineries on the Gulf coast

 

In 1979 we had the Iran hostage crisis and the ppb soared.. In fact I made a ton of money with a sizable chunk of Exxon stock that split. In the 1970s, the Suez Canal was out of commission so producers rushed to build supertankers..

At that time the lift costs in Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq and Iran were very small a.. usually under $3 a barrel and US producers simply couldn't compete.

I think alternative energy is a good idea.. Car emissions are very smelly to me.. But then I put solar panels in my 5 bathroom home in 1978..

I don't ever talk about Global warming.. I think of the earth as a self correcting organic machine.. Archeologists know that the landscape is always changing.

 

Super low?

You know in Saudi Arabia gas is like 20 cents a gallon (US dollars)???? In Venezuela it's even cheaper I believe..Oil is literally cheaper than water..

 

They were lower when Obama took office. Then what happened. Just because its summer now does not mean winter is not coming again.

 

Your issue is with engineering?

Are you an engineer?

 

They still claimed that there is only so much oil and that we would soon run out. Just like predictions of NYC going under water.

 

As do anthropologists

 

A few.. maybe a couple of additional employees at the refineries in the Free Trade Zone..

Keystone was a tax dodge at best.. NAFTA and Free Trade Zones. People were still under the influence of the Peak Oil Scam.. That old stuff was idiotic even in the 1960s but the Energy Brokers in the US (Matthew Simmons) started promoting it again to drive speculation and panic.

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Oil men didn't say that we were running out of oil.. "energy brokers" were saying that.

 

It wont create thousands of jobs if even temporary and these wont help anyone ?

 

what does being an engineer or not have to do with the fact that there is a existing pipeline that begins in Hardisty Canada and passes through Steel City just the same as the proposed pipeline does. Houston and Port Arthur would be the ones who would really benefit from the new construction. Otherwise there is already existing pipeline that serves the same areas



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