The mistress of deception

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary under oath claimed she knew nothing about it. I can only wonder just how long the American people will tolerate the abject flaunting of the law the Obama administration is doing?

    Treason

    The betrayal of one's own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.


    A case could be made for treason if the eMails are show that there were Al-Queda or Ansar al-Sharia mixed in with the Syrian Rebels and Hillary knew it and supplied the weapons anyway.

    Two days before he was killed Steven met with Al-Queda and Ansar al-Sharia affilliates.......

    Clinton: ‘I Know Nothing’ About Ambassador Stevens’s Meeting with Al-Qaeda Affiliate

    Anybody actually believe that? I don't, no more than I believe she knew nothing about arms going to the Syrian Rebels despite a UN Arms Embargo. This is the Democrat parties front running candidate for President, I think she a better candidate for an orange jumpsuit but that's just my opinion.
     
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    There really wasn't any US Consulate in Benghazi... no diplomatic mission.. No consular officers.. The rented villa had no security.. and there is no information about a Benghazi consulate before the attack that night.

    This was a CIA thing.. and the US doesn't telegraph that the CIA is there with Marine Guards like real US Embassies.
     
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    You are exactly right. The CIA has never reported to the State Department. They are a division of Homeland Security. Moreover Ambassador Stevens died of smoke inhalation. I'm afraid that there was an awful lot of gasoline on the grounds of the residence (it wasn't even a consulate). The residence had a safe room which did nothing to keep out the smoke.

    It was a tragedy which has been shamelessly exploited by the great right wing noise machine. Gee, Gowdy Doody came out looking like a fool.
     
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    Andrew Napolitano should get rid of his grudge against Hillary. This is becoming so puerile of him.
     
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    No doubt Hillary has broken laws and lied but what is scary is her incompetence. Do we need to elect another dumbass like obama?
     
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    It was HER duty to ensure his safety. They were gunrunning and I am SURE he didn't want to be there, but she SENT him. It is on HER. HER job...
     
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    This raises the question of whether Christopher Stevens was working for somebody other than the State Department and had endangered himself by engaging in activities and contacts that had not been sanctioned by or known by the State Department. Was Christopher Stevens a CIA Black Ops operative?
     
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    Something is still wrong with this story.. US Embassies always have a Marine Guard... as do Consulates. its been nagging at me.. Have you ever been to a US embassy or Consulate..

    The Embassy in Tripoli had Marine Guards.

    The Ambassador was meeting with Dr. Burke and a group of other American doctors at Benghazi Hospital the morning of the 12th.
     
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    More unsubstantiated mudslinging. Amazing how simply using declarative sentences in lieu of substantiating evidence one can make any accusation seem as tho it is a conviction.

    The fringes of partisanship are gullible sorts, eager for any scrap that caters to their hostile biases, the less actual verified information the better.
     
  10. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are making stuff up.

    Here's my proof, post your's with links like I did.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    It calls into question whether Stevens was put in charge of Hillary gun running operation.

    Revisit the OP.
     
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    The Libs keep tossing bread to the Romans in the Coliseum while the Empire burns.
     
  13. Professor Peabody

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    I hope she wins the nomination. I think it's like 60% find Hillary untrustworthy. Campaign ads showing WHY she's untrustworthy will back up that sentiment before the election.
     
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    Yes. Isn't it odd that Reagan got praised by the right wing for similar arms supply to terrorists yet Clinton gets pilloried by them. What a strange world of double standards we live in.
     
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    It all comes down to an ambassador and 3 Americans trying to help him being murdered and she stood by and watched it. If she hadn't caused a vacuum in Libya by killing Qadaffi like Obama caused a vacuum in Iraq which led to the rise of ISIS, maybe things would be different. She is inept and not worthy to be president. It all comes down to her character and I do not trust her for a minute. She lies like a rug. Do you trust Cameron?
     
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    I don't trust any politician further than I can spit. They are almost without exception venal, lying and self-serving hypocrites. I am constantly amazed at the gullibility and child-like trust of those who actually vote for the bastards.
     
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    I agree with you, but we have to decide who the best of the worst are. We all certainly need a better quality of candidates.
     
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    Did they chant death to America? Did they attack the United States and kill 300 Americans at THAT TIME? It's a before and after thing. When the U.S. was supplying the Mujaheddin (started under Jimmy Carter) they hadn't turned on us and attacked. Dealing with them and supplying them with arms AFTER the attacked us and killed 3000 Americans is unconscionable. What is odd is that anyone would compare the two.
     
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    Who gives a damn who they were murdering? It was the act of facilitating the killing which you should be condemning-and that was an act of US foreign policy perpetrated by your Holy Icon of the right. Suggestion: If you don't want to suffer terrorism or the threat of it then don't participate in it!
     
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    He fit roundly critized for falling for the Iranian sham that the people they were dealing with were not the Iranian regime but moderates who wanted to overthrow the terrorist regime.
     
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    Please show me some evidence that there was a US Consulate in Benghazi before Ambassador Stevens was killed.
     
  22. Professor Peabody

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    You said....

    I replied.....

    Your response was......

    First off it was Jimmy Carter who teamed up with the Mujaheddin............

    There wouldn't be an Al Queda at all if it weren't for Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski. Their operation Cyclone to to arm, train, and finance the Afghan mujahideen during the Soviet war in Afghanistan launched the entire movement.

    Second, by your logic because England participated in WWI, Germany was perfectly justified in bombing the crap out of your country in WWII.
     
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    Reagan armed them


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  24. Professor Peabody

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    It's your contention that it wasn't, you need to prove that. All the news sources call it a Consulate or Diplomatic Mission. If it was consulate then they needed a Marine Guard. If it was a Diplomatic Mission with permanent residents then they needed a Marine Guard. If it was a Diplomatic Mission without permanent residents then they did NOT needed a Marine Guard. All the news sources call it a Consulate or Diplomatic Mission, it's your contention that Benghazi was not a consulate or a permanent resident Diplomatic Mission. Please prove that.
     
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    "Diplomatic mission", "diplomatic facility", "with CIA annexe". No mention here of 'consulate': https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c34e90-f62c-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html
     

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