This is why Religion should matter for Presidency

The Amelekites in the Bible.

They happened to have the wrong parents. Is that a capital crime?

 

The holy bible speaks of a beast, and false prophet, this false prophet is the Roman Catholic Church. The exact colors that pope's, cardinals, and other Roman Catholic Church followers wear, are the same colors revelation tells us the false prophet wears. Also the pope came out and said it is ok to be gay, this is something you would never hear from Christianity, or for that matter Jesus. So to tell me they are the same, especially when Catholics killed millions of Christians in the Inquisition, is just Ludacris, and completely wrong.

 

there is no proof in this world that any gods or monsters exist

 

The Beast was not the Catholic church..

This is why I don't want some fundamentalist or bible thumping evangelical in office. A brain dead Christian is a menace.

 

Your evidence is color coordination?

 

There was not a single poor person that wrote a single word in the Bible spoken to them by a GOD. Poor people never learned to read or write until the 1800's. It was only the elite that wrote the bible and their only objective is to control the masses.

 

Did you not read it all? Catholics killed millions of Christian's during the inquisition. By using this alone, should tell you they are from the same.

 

Do not be deceived by any means. Blessed is he that has never seen me, yet still believes in me.

 

Why do not talk about what the Amelekites did, and only what God did.

The Amalekites attacked the Israelites without apparent provocation as they were traveling during the Exodus (Ex 17:. "When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and cut off all who were lagging behind" (Dt 25:17-1. They later attacked Israel during the time of the Judges (Jdg 3:13) and often raided the Israelites' land after they had planted crops, leaving them with nothing (Jdg 6:2-5). God punished the Amalekites by ordering Saul to destroy them (1 Sam 15:2-3) - over 300 years after they had first attacked Israel. During that time, the Amalekites had contact with the Israelites and would have heard about God. They could have repented and changed their ways, but they continued to raid and plunder other cities up to the time of Saul and David (1 Sam 30:1-3). The Amalekites that Saul and David warred against were clearly no better than their ancestors who had first waylaid Israel.

 

Their children did those things? Amelekite infants attacked the Israelites?

 

Read the entire Bible. All children, and those who have never heard the word of God, are automatically granted Heaven. Before Jesus God would send angels down to punish man for their sins. Depending on your sin he would take your children from you, however he took them, those children are in Heaven with God.

 

Wouldn't it make sense that Chriatians should both support and encourage abortion then? If you kill the children early then there is zero risk of them going to hell.

 

Is that cause it benefits you, how convenient. Don't claim he doesn't exist if you can't prove it.

God will never abandoned you, you have to abandoned him.

 

Do you know all the technology our government has. Paying scientists to discover these technologies. No most of it is classified. And classified to other scientists as well.

Why is it that most scientist believe they can prove God wrong. For the creation of the universe or how it came into existence they can not prove, it is all theory. So who has the positive that must be proved. To me the positive that must be proved, is creation without God.

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Yes, I see I said the Holy Bible, where I should have said the Ten Commandment's.

 

there is no proof that the Cracken exists



there is no proof that any Gods exist




FACTS

 

Obama is proof of this

 

These religious books in reality are what man learned in the past to be beneficial or harmful and believing that the things that are good come from god and the bad from the devil. Its merely codifying what they had learned. Things like not eating shellfish or pork for instance. Its simply trying to show you how to live and survive. Its pretty good at it.

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But you pay more attention when you believe there is a god. This is why the founders believed only a religious peoples can maintain democracy and limited government

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Wow I could have said the same word for word.

 

Do you not know what Jesus died for? The teaching of the New Testimony. I said before, the number of his follower's became so huge, the existing religion in Rome, that soon came to be the Roman Catholic Church, was worried that he would take all of their follower's, so they killed him.

The idea that the Pope is the inheritor of the Apostle Peter's position is a misunderstanding of a scripture in the Bible; Peter is not the rock upon which the church is built. Jesus is the rock, the foundation, not Peter. In that scripture, however, Jesus is saying to ALL the Apostles, not just Peter, that they will be the ones that will establish the congregations that will follow Jesus (and will later come to be known as Christians).

As to the founder of the Roman Catholic church, that can mean many different individuals, but the one most would consider to be its founder is Emperor Constantine of the Roman Empire, who converted to Christianity late in life. At the time, Roman law held that whatever faith the emperor was, so was everyone in the empire; so when he converted, technically everyone in the empire converted along with him (though most unofficially did not convert, since they did not believe in Christ in their hearts but were forced by law to say they were now Christians).

The official church of the Roman state became known as the Roman Catholic church.

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Thou shall not kill

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Go look in the mirror, you will see that God exists.

 

Jesus said Peter was the Rock.. Peter equals Petra = Rock.

There was no Church in Jesus time.. Jesus was a Jew.

 

No luck required. Just use logic and reason and you will find your way.

 

Did you seriously just argue that Jesus had a following during his life time that was so large it threatened the multi-million person Roman Cult?

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Thou shalt not kill...unless God tells you to murder infants to punish their parents who you are already going to kill.

Is that more accurate?

 

Not sure about your "colors" analogy but I 100% agree with you that the Catholic Church was as "Anti" Jesus/Christ as an organization can possibly be.

Revelations is an interesting book, just as the prognostications of Nostradamus or Edgar Casey or George Orwell. There was considerable debate as to whether or not to include Revelations into Canon. I think perhaps from time to time folks do have prophetic visions but that does not mean these visions were something written down by God or that they are necessarily true.

To me the Beast of Revelations is in some ways like the Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion monster that currently runs this country. What is not clear is that this has anything to do with some end of the world apocalypse by a long shot. Some dude had a vivid dream, which may or may not have been induced by a drug, and that is that. This dude may have been a Christian and attributed this dream to an end of the world apocalypse which was the "Rule of the Day" rather than the exception. There are hoards of apocalyptic writings from that time.

Go read the Nag Hammadi stuff.

This is where you go completely off the rails. Not about the killing millions of Jews, Christians and others but about your "Gay" comment.

Jesus did not say one word about Gays. What he did say is "Judge not lest you be Judged".... " Take the Log out of your own eye before trying to pick the speck out of your Brothers".

No offence but you do not seem to have put much work into understanding the main tenets of the ministry of Jesus.

Question: What is the rule that Jesus states to sum up the Law and the Prophets ? Hint .. James, Brother of Jesus and head of the Jerusalem church called it the "Royal Law"

Question 2: Does the Religious right follow this rule ?

Fact: When this new Pope said it is OK to be Gay ... he was following this rule ! (which is a relative first for a Pope given that even during WW2 the Pope was still supporting killing Jews)

 

No, Jesus would not say any sin is ok. I understand what you are saying, "let him with no sin cast the first stone". Jesus is saying we can be forgiven, if asked. He does not say it is ok. He told the girl to go an sin no more. Not go and keep sinning.

 

Scientists do not believe they can disprove god and never try to disprove god.

Scientists work by questioning observing and testing. One cannot observe or test god regardless of the hypothesis. As I said if your hypothesis is that God is real it cannot be tested if myth it still cannot be tested.

Your babbling about classified documents is irrelevant.

Morality was around long before the ten commandments as well as the bible in general

 

Babtists killed millions of Christians as did Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, or any other sect you wish to name.

If killing millions qualified one for the title of the beast then all Christian religions are their own beast. Except maybe the quakers and Amish.