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BBC: World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada ) wants "Russia" ban

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by litwin, Nov 9, 2015.

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    Wada is a fake organization?
     
    litwin, Nov 10, 2015
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    http://www.newsweek.com/east-germanys-steroid-shame-253840
     
    litwin, Nov 10, 2015
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    Just watched the film.Do not know what to say.
     
    vis, Nov 10, 2015
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  4. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a sad story. This is much worse than individual doping and I feel sorry for people being used by their state in this way.
    Doping of all forms is fraud and should be prosecuted. A guy like Armstrong like many other athletes who doped themselves should be in jail. Instead many of them earned a good living even after being caught.
    Especially in cycling.
     
    Gaius_Marius, Nov 10, 2015
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  5. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    totally agree with you , one for sure DOPING IS NOT A JOKE
    http://www.methodshop.com/2008/08/athlete-says-sports-steroids-changed-him-from-woman-to-man.shtml
     
    litwin, Nov 10, 2015
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  6. JHoneyman

    JHoneyman New Member Past Donor

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    When will the Russian press start blaming the CIA and making accusations about a 'Western plot' to discredit Russia? 10, 9, 8, 7...
     
    JHoneyman, Nov 10, 2015
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  7. MrFirst

    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    I've already done that in the post #30 in this thread.
     
    MrFirst, Nov 10, 2015
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  8. Kiwi33

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    In the West any other method of impact on Russia, except imagination on the Russian born insidiousness is unknown.

    Thus as the proof this the facts from social networks and other "mysterious" or "secret" sources are shown.

    As always, simply "the strong proof" was an incitement to new charges: the German movie which appeared slightly less than a year ago on the German ADR channel where couple of former Russian athletes - the victims of the mode (and now living abroad) - absolutely easily and unsubstantially broadcast on the camera that in Russia is in large quantities applied a dope.

    Incomprehensibly, but for some reason it is enough these "proofs" to call the IOC for discharge of a Russian team from participation at the Olympic Games … Thus that no concrete proofs of doping are present and in mention! Where logic, you ask? There is no logic. But that's put that in the West long ago don't appeal to elementary logic, in particular, when business concerns forcing of the anti-Russian hysteria.

    The western promotion does the own people of the zombie.
    The western promotion is the USSR 2.
     
    Kiwi33, Nov 10, 2015
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  9. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn't read the report. I asked you to and not to come back until you had.


    https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/wada_independent_commission_report_1_en.pdf

    Come back with something more than your bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
    Gaius_Marius, Nov 10, 2015
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    Kiwi33, Nov 10, 2015
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  11. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. There is a Virus. Is that how they convince you not to look at information they don't want you to?
    I can quote the whole text here if you are so paranoid.

    The report completely destroys Russian athletics. There is nothing to dispute. It is a disgrace to the world of sports and Russia will be banned for this.
    I have already quoted a lot and yet it is a drop in the ocean compared to the whole report. Read it.
    And don't come back before you do.
     
    Gaius_Marius, Nov 10, 2015
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  12. Kiwi33

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    Your wish
    It is the political order covered with the beautiful report. (as well as in a case with attempt of refusal of Russia in carrying out a World Cup 2018 )Such scandals were earlier, and with the GDR team and team of China, but to anybody forbade nothing!

    The commission of WADA only recommended to exclude Russia from the competition. Thus the head of WADA told that such powers aren't present. In other words, it b*** t promotion...
     
    Kiwi33, Nov 10, 2015
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  13. Gaius_Marius

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    Move along. Your input is worthless.
     
    Gaius_Marius, Nov 10, 2015
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  14. litwin

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    Virus of Truth, no vatniks here will read this...with one exception - VIS
     
    litwin, Nov 10, 2015
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    Yours is useful, only for promotion?
     
    Kiwi33, Nov 10, 2015
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    We will learn in a week. The truth it will already not be interesting to anybody. But now promotion is necessary to someone.
     
    Kiwi33, Nov 10, 2015
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    Period! Enuff said. Otherwise u wud be informed, there is no professional sport without doping nowadays.

    The difference is only in methods of hiding the use. And the corruption fact of high level in sport federations.

    Someone is ordered to be caught, someone is ordered to be protected. Thats simple as that.

    Back in 2012 there was a huge scandal, when germanys NADA suspected 28 sportsmen from different kind of sports in blood transfusion. Why

    WADA didn't suggest to ban these countries from competitions? And now after a movie of someone who isn't informed even close as NADA, and

    has no any real evidences WADA wants to ban ALL russian sportsmen? I call it biased position with a political factor.

    Doping is widespread in almost every sport and in every nation. If u don't believe it u are too naive.

    The only way to solve the problem is to let everyone officially take doping, then we wud be enjoying fair competitions again.
     
    ThumbsUp, Nov 11, 2015
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  18. litwin

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    do you think that number 28 is critical? cos 99% is...
     
    litwin, Nov 11, 2015
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    litwin, Nov 11, 2015
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    Totally agree with ya here kiwi.

    If it says Russia cheated, you will here the Kremlin brigade lead by Jeanette saying they have no credence and they are liars and Western media, yadda yadda yadda.

    If it says Russia is in the clear, the Western supporters will say its another obvious lie from Putin.

    When it comes to Russian relations on this forum has noone else noticed that there is zero discussion? Just the two sides hurling insults at each other as they stick to their dogma.
     
    Draco, Nov 11, 2015
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    Honestly, if it is still like it was during cold war with government ordered doping or if it is not ... there is neither evidence for, nor against it given.
    Furthermore ... there are too many doping scandals all the time existing and this in all countries and many sports given. if we start now banning Russia from competitions, we have to do at much more countries in West and East! And then we have fact that there is no evidence given that all Russian sportsmen and women are doped ... so bashing on innocents too?

    But OK, lets ban all countries were Doping cases are so often or where a bribe was given. ... then there were not much left at least and so the next Olympic 100 meter winner is John Smith from Samoa Islands followed by Jose Gonzales from Peru and Kiran Ria from Nepal!

    P.S.
    And in the current political situation the complete issue will be like a train load of ammunition for these Western hating conspiracy trolls to blame the West to make dirty games against Russia!
     
    Mandelus, Nov 11, 2015
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  22. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    do you start your day with Sputnik, RT and ufo.ru?
     
    litwin, Nov 11, 2015
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    have you seen the full rapport? the main point that entire doping institution in Muscovy is state orchestrated ,much like it was in eastern Germany and which turned women into men

    [​IMG]
     
    litwin, Nov 11, 2015
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    I saw and read litwin ... but in how many other countries is given too? In how many other countries are these institutions really independent? In how many countries are the sports associations a state inside the state?

    In short: Russia is far from being alone here and there are more existing, simply because sports is big business AND important for some countries in matter of reputation. The point is only that Russia is maybe caught, others not or not full...
     
    Mandelus, Nov 11, 2015
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  25. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn't read the report did you?

    About the The All-Russia Athletic Federation

    About the Russia anti-doping agency RUSADA

    Regarding the Russian minister for sports

    https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/wada_independent_commission_report_1_en.pdf

    What were you saying again about evidence? Any country with this (*)(*)(*)(*) list should be banned from sports.
     
    Gaius_Marius, Nov 11, 2015
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