Antarctic ice melt not rising sea-level fast

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  1. bwk

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    Einstein said there was something "spooky" about time. As usual he was right.
     
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    Remove my head out of the sand for starters. Continents moving, are a little different than continents sinking under water because of rising seas; http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/29/w...-the-consequences-of-climate-change.html?_r=0 These Islands are not being taken over because they are moving.
     
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    I won't even go any further than your second line left wing fool .( BTW I can see why you have to donate to be heard). Drop the ice cube in the water after you Mark a water line on the glass . Your breaking out in sweats ,huh . I always thought that maybe their was some truth in some of these theories . You just confirmed there isn't , that your a lemming jumping off a cliff with the rest of your lefty rodents . Stupid liberals .
     
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    His argument makes perfect sense just like Hank's "famous" question:

    [video=youtube;v7XXVLKWd3Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q[/video]

    Wait, Antarctica is a land mass and not an 'island?!!" Doesnt float in the water like Hanks says!! Or as an ice cube! Just collects snow & ice on top?! OMG
     
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    Here s the actual total predicted sea level rise from global warming from your article:

    The Franco-British team's study only concerns itself with the Antarctic contribution to sea-level rise.
    There would of course be separate and additional inputs from Greenland and other ice stores, and from the general expansion of waters in the warming oceans.
    The IPCC assessment gave a range between 42cm and 80cm for this total, with a central estimate of about 60cm, for the same medium-to-high emissions scenario, known in the jargon as "A1B".

    Just so you know an inch is 2.54 centimeters so the total predicted rise from your very own article actually agrees very well with the total predicted by Nature. Keep trying but do read the entire article before posting!
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    A very ignorant and disparaging comment about the intellectual founders of America that were very progressive Classic Liberals. Of course my political ideology is founded in Classical Liberalism which includes the Natural Right of Property addressed by John Locke in his Second Treatise of Civil Government, Chapter 5, where he expressly establishes "Nothing was made by God for man to spoil or destroy."

    http://www.constitution.org/jl/2ndtr05.htm

    Man-made pollution is a violation of the Right of Property and on those grounds alone the massive atmospheric pollution created by the burning of coal that is destoying the natural balance in our atmosphere resulting in global warmning is objectionable. It would be objectionable to the progressive Classical Liberals that founded America and to the Classical Liberals that exist in America today as libertarians.

    The problem today is that right-wing Republicans don't believe in and don't embrace the "natural right of property" in America.
     
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    The increase in global temperatures has been documented based upon empirical measurements and the article in Nature does not claim that the sea levels won't rise to the levels predicted but instead claims that they might not rise as fast as predicted by the models and then proposes that mankind can solve the problem of the pollution within 100 years. Of course the manmade pollution will not stop magically and instead it will only stop if we aggressively address it.

    It's the "climate-change deniers" that ignore the fact that the study still states that manmade climate change will still cause the ocean levels to rise to the levels predicted over time and that the authors of the study also establish that the only way to prevent this is by eliminating the pollution causing the climate change.
     
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    Yes, it said 10 cm this century, big (*)(*)(*)(*)ing whoop, a whole 4 inches, quick run and hide. That being, they have over exaggerated the original claims.

    Why do you continue to push the lie?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151118155128.htm
    A new study by scientists in the UK and France has found that Antarctic ice sheet collapse will have serious consequences for sea level rise over the next two hundred years, though not as much as some have suggested.
     
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    Boring AND foolish and a wanna be patriot in your own fantasyland.
     
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    Would you be willing to admit that the predictive validity of a majority of global warming modelling is left wanting? Are you willing to admit that the past history of global warming predictions has been stunningly bad? Are you willing to admit that pro-environmental hoaxes have been played upon the gullible public such as the North Pacific Gyre Hoax, the Ozone Hole Hoax, and the East Anglia University just change the data to whatever they want it to be hoax? I hope you would be willing to admit the obvious. With the number of hoaxes foisted upon the public by the Acolytes of the church of anthropogenic climate change, perhaps the term climate change denier is a bit of a misnomer. Perhaps 'the non-hysterical', is the more appropriate term. Perhaps 'those who have a objective sense of science based on the past conduct of the global warming community' is the more appropriate term. Perhaps the 'non-gullible' more accurately describes those who rightfully question the faith based authority from on high concerning environmental issues. Or maybe, those of us with good memories who have seen ludicrous global warming predictions fail over and over again is the most appropriate term.

    And just why is it that every single global warming prediction of doom and gloom contains the caveat that more money needs to be spent for further studies? And who is the recipient of that money that ought to be spent on further studies? Why it is the authors of the original studies. That is mighty convenient, don't you think. It must be a nice gig being a learned clergy of the Church of Anthropogenic Climate Change. Hallelujah brother!!!!
     
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    Then you better stop breathing
     
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    Anthropogenic Global Warming AGW was first predicted during the mid-19th Century and the climate change caused by human activity, which was predicted, has occured and is very well documented. As with all predictions based upon scientific theory they're accuracy limited by emperical measurements required for the predictions. That does not invalidate the theory but does require additional measurement to update the models created. We're seeing that today when it comes to global warming where incomplete emperical information was lacking in the models that require extensive amounts of data from many sources. With everyday, and with every measurement taken, the models become more and more accurate. This is how science works and how science is supposed to work. The theory of AGW remains solid and the models that make the predictions are become more accurate even as I type this.

    The North Pacific Gyre and the Ozone Hole were and are both real. They are both measurable and we even have photos from space showing the North Pacific Gyre where a lot of trash accumulates. I don't know where the idea comes from that either of these are hoaxes because it's simply not true.

     
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    more anti science. Miami downtown now floods in a plus tide
     
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    But as well, "biased & dishonest Junk Science cost all money, and unfortunately over-reactive emotionalism is free"
     
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    If Sanders was just a tad bit loonier he could cause a sensation as the
    newest carnival attraction.As the guy { Geek } who bites the head off
    chickens alive.Of course with the right carny soundtrack score.
     
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    Though it is strange how scientists from around the world come up with similar conclusions
     
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    There are many lists of those who say "tread softly" as the exact mechanisms & contribution proportions are still not fully understood!

    But its the emotional Liberals who are 'running with it!"
     
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    Yes that AGW is a hoax
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well lets explore these not fully understood mechanisms

    Do yo agree sea level is rising... For SOME reason

    Other than melting ice, and warming oceans.,. What are some other reasons this may be happening?
     
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    Yes, a global hoax... A gigantic conspiracy.... Across the nations of the world
    It is the only explanation that makes sense
    AND yields the desired preconception
     
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    Breathing creates natural pollution and is not "manmade" pollution that's caused by the activities of man and not by the nature of man. This is a stupid as those that complain about the "methane pollution" created by cattle which is also natural pollution and not manmade pollution.

    Stupid and silly arguments are nothing but stupid and silly arguments.
     
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    See my post #103
     

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