One mass shooting a day in the US

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  1. IranianStudent1

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    It is pitiful to read that.

    Obama should proceed sooner to dismantle the people from guns.
     
  2. doombug

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    It is good the US isn't number one on mass shootings:

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  3. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mass murder is defined as four or more killed. Mass shooting is four or more people shot, either killed or injured.

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    The only notable variable is gun proliferation.
     
  4. MrNick

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    Here is an opinion - gangbangers enjoy pulling driveby's - of course you will submit to that when you want to group them with "mass shootings" but will deny it when someone points out that they're generally committed by blacks with illegal guns...

    You do realize if we put brick walls around the ghettos and contained these gangsters the United States would a) have the most guns and b) would be the safest nation on the planet?

    Urban ghettos where guns are ironically for the most part banned have some of the highest gun murder and violence rates in the nation...

    Do you really think a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing 16-year-old walks into a gun store and buys a gun - or any felon gangbanger for that matter?

    99.9% of legal gun owners have absolutely NOTHING to do with gun crime....

    It's a FACT towns and cities or counties that have the most guns have the lowest gun crime rates in the nation...
     
  5. Jim Rockford

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    More proof the 4th A is dead. 1st, 2nd , 4th and 10th Amendments, all dead. We should make a memorial to those Amendments We loved and cherished so much for 200 years.
     
  6. Jim Rockford

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    One a day, but We only hear about the ones not committed by Black or Latinos. So We only hear of 3-4 a year since Obama took office. Travesty is not recognizing the white elephant.
     
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    Excellent. Gun violence is a Health Threat, to wit;

    Medical communities hail the “public health” designation as a solution to gun violence.

    Gun Violence as Public Health Threat

    Gun Violence - American Public Health Association

    The Gun Violence Threat That No One Is Talking About — And Why Women Should Be Concerned

    Top Medical Groups Say Gun Violence Is A Public Health Crisis
     
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    Did the original article I posted say anything about about "gangbangers", "mass shootings", "ghettos" or even "gun crime"? No it didn't. It did report a crime that took place in South Carolina. Arguably, it was the GOP/NRA gun advocates here that went gonzo all over this this news account, projecting their fears with exaggerated and multiplying effect until this simple report has become a lightning rod for 2nd amendment rights.This kind of reaction to a simple news item is absolutely disproportionate to the incident.

    Given the current state of any gun related violence in the U.S., it is prudent and rational to be concerned about it and likewise, to attempt to find a possible solution to this, which would include government agencies that are the best equipped to handle this, such as the CDC.
     
  9. truth and justice

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    The FBI has no sources to check up on. The data in the OP gives sources for every mass shooting.
    The sources cited in the OP do not have more casualties. The FBI data only includes deaths. The data in the OP includes all gun shootings, those wounded and those that died. So obviously the sum of wounded plus dead will be greater than the sum total of just dead.
     
  10. truth and justice

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    Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

    The constitution is not fixed. The constitution was written first. Then amendments to the constitution were added. Then exceptions were incorporated into the amendments. Article V describes the process used to amend the constitution
     
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    Proof? Do you not understand what your table was stating? It only has fatalities!. No one died at the 16 wounded New Orleans mass shooting.

    So in answer to your question of have I got proof to "your list does not include events such as that which happened a few days ago in New Orleans", the answer is yes.
     
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    He never answered. Ill make it easier....where was the mass shooting yesterday?
     
  13. truth and justice

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    In the USA
     
  14. Bastiats libertarians

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    When i say NRA country folk I am paraphrasing what liberals consider to be Bitter clingers to guns and bibles out in fly over country. The truth is I know better that the NRA is made up of millions of Americans from all walks of life in every part of this country. Freedom loving individualist who want nothing more to secure in both life, liberty, and property. And yes I factually smashed the argument of 1 mass shooting per day with liberal propaganda from mother Jones. Liberals are so wrong on gun rights they cant even agree with each other on the facts. Math does not lie. Gun rights are here to stay. Don't like it? I hear New Zealand is an amazing place to live.
     
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    Proliferation cant possibly be true. And I can mathematically prove it with Chicago Illinois.
     
  16. freakonature

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    You will get nowhere pushing your agenda if you are not at the very least honest about the many conditions that are specific to the US culture. Giant prohibition efforts are not successful in the United States which is just a byproduct of the fact that authoritarian measures are not successful inn the United States.
     
  17. Doug_yvr

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    So something like the Patriot Act or warrant-less wiretapping could never happen in America is what you're claiming?
     
  18. cupAsoup

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    So, sweeping generalizations about people you have no clue about and a blatant refusal to read what I responded to you with is your thing. Got it. You don't speak for anyone but yourself. The NRA has scared enough simple minded people into thinking like you do, so you're right on that.
     
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    I don't think gun laws are about to change anywhere in the near future, but it does seem to me like one concealed carry with an adequate training could have made a difference of about ten deaths. Maybe we should improve gun laws with a obliged training in how to effectivly eliminate a killer, so security improves for the just and the innocent bystanders.
    These terrorists were well trained and all criminals are better trained than honest civilians. Everybody Deputy!
     
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    Same problem...when all is said and done and the FBI gets around to publishing the numbers for 2015 in a year or so, that number will be far less than the number claimed in the sites used in that bogus news report...
     
  21. Bastiats libertarians

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    Well in point of fact I do have some idea about the people in this country as I have lived in all 8 geographical regions. I did read what you wrote but basically outside of personal insults you did nothing to refute the math. I think I speak for a great deal of people when I say that gun control is not only morally wrong but illogical as well. The math simply does not add up. Also on a personal note if you could address points, facts, and arguments I would greatly appreciate it. You may want to brush up on the rules regarding personal attacks.
     
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    It can never be successful
     
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    That's a good point - other than "ban guns" I don't usually here a lot of sensible options.
     
  24. Professor Peabody

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    Which public officials are willing to give up their armed security detail? I'll give up my gun the day after Obama gives up his secret service detail permanently. Do we have a deal?
     
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    Was that the only variable in 91 when shootings were at their highest? Is that the only variable now that they are much less?
     

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