New Orleans to remove 4 Confederate statues

The problem is now and has always been the north derives its philosophy from the english magna carta ideas, and the south comes from the caribean plantation culture. The south has slowly had to learn how to be Americans but does have a way to go.

 

Glad they came down. I'm not sure why the south is intent on celebrating traitorous losers.

 

I was born and raised in Atlanta, and spent 10 years in New Orleans. My great grandfather fought from Shiloh in 1962 to Franklinton, in 1865, so I have a dog in this fight.

One of the monuments is totally inappropriate, honoring a man who championed white supremacy. Two others, hardly anyone in New Orleans has ever seen, or noticed. Only Lee Circle is famous. That being said, the city has every right to take it down IF it is on city property. However, there is no reason that it can not be moved to private property. There is a confederate museum less than 1/3 mile from Lee Circle.

 

It certainly is in part a "clash of cultures" … even still in 2015 ...

 

That provision applied only to slaves, and it was for proportional representation in Congress. (wasn't that fortunate for the slaver south? they get representation in Congress for property!)

That provision was what gave the south near total dominance in Congress for pretty much most of the time from our Founding nearing up to the Civil War.

Things started to shift mid 1850's, and it was that loss of power and recognition their precious institution of owning human beings was being threatened that turned the south into a firebreathing, war-drum pounding, traitorous mass.

 

Yeah … So much for the odd revisionist claim that The South was dominated and abused by the big bad "North" ...

 

No they are three fifths. Without this provision it would have been harder to get rid of slavery. The south lost representation by this under counting.

 

Thasts why they only got three fifths. Besides the South was already at a huge population disadvantage being more rural. The North was breaking its promise. It was using democracy as a weapon against the south. The south said long live the republic

 

Consider: upwards of 80% of the economy from the south revolved around their institution of bondage, and the value of the slaves represented the single largest concentration of property in the entire country. Above everything. Combined.

I've cited this number before, but it still boggles:

The collective wealth tied up in slave property was over 3 billion dollars.
Not in today dollars, adjusted for inflation -- Three BILLION in 1860 dollars.

If you wanted to buy all the railroads, factories and banks in the entire country at that time, it would have only cost you about $2.5 billion. The wealth in their near 4 million slaves was a gargantuan economic power southerners were bound and determined to continue to exploit and expand into the territories, into Cuba, into Latin America...

This too, as regards the dominance of the Southerns, in positions of power:

Every
single
President -- with the exception of two (from the North, the Adams') until 1850 - was a slaveowner.

 

You're correct … (Note: "three fifths" is even less than "two thirds" &#8230

 

They didn't lose representation. They gained representation for counting their property - property that had no representation and had no say.

Some in the North at the time of the debates in the crafting of the USC wondered why their horses and cows couldn't be given representation - because that was essentially what it was giving them. Farm implements - chattel, as being represented in Congress.

 

Lost Causers /|\

What a joke.

 

the industrial revolution required power to run machines and the north had that in the form of water power so the industrial revolution started and expanded in the north. the south had little in the way of water power so remained agrarian. at the start of the civil war the north had 21 million people and the south had 9 million people. The north had 70% of all factories or 5 times the factories of the south. The north had 70% of the railroad track. the south was running a losing game from the get go.

 

Of which nearly 4 million of them -- were SLAVES.

 

Quite an amazing thing to consider -- some states had majority slave populations.

That's right, more slave than free

 

They are consistent, though … Yes … ???

E.g., the "Lost Cause" guys have long opposed opposed opposed, e.g., The Voting Rights Act, etc. …

… and still today are absolutely livid appalled disgusted furious to have a Darkie in The (ironic, yes … ???) "White" House …
I mean, really … ???

 

The process of erasing history is in full swing.

Nothing happened before Barack Hussein Obama.

 

Brilliant contribution!

 

using black corpses as "sandbags" in dykes when the mississippi flooded did predate him.

 

Happy Holidays!

 

They lost 2 fifths depending on how you look at it.

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Yes states rights has now become a lost cause

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Making it even more unfair. That makes it 21 million vs 5

 

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia; what Republic could be worse off?

 

So slavery wasn't about profit. It was primarily sadistic fun.

Ok.

 

This thread was started in 2015.

Seems like it took this long to have one of these statues removed.

This one




A tribute to White Supremacy - was removed on Monday.

 

They need them gone so they can rewrite history. The left is not happy with losing the Civil War and trying to keep slavery, so they need to somehow abolish the statues, get rid of the teachings in school and rewrite history so they can somehow come out on the winning side.

Sad how they rigged an election and still lost. These are the next logical steps.