President Putin 'probably' approved Litvinenko murder

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  1. JoakimFlorence

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    From what I've read, the Russians seems to have a penchant for using uncommon overly exotic poisons when assassinations are carried out.
     
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    Russians always use simple and effective ways. History of polonium is a Hollywood story. England killed Litvinenko.
     
  3. Crusdr58

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    NOT a Hollywood story, a true story, and it was known to have been used to kill Litvinenko.

    I heard it was the KGB.
     
  4. cerberus

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    The BBC was flogging this story to death all day yesterday, and always 'probably': I emailed Today with (quote) 'probably'? Did he (Putin) sanction the assassination or didn't he for christ sake? (unquote) And Cameron getting in on the act by demonising Putin for it without the slightest evidence? This is becoming truly surreal.

    I didn't get a reply to the email by the way. :mrgreen:
     
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    Delete 'sick' insert 'stupid'.
     
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    Special services can kill by insensible degrees. Polonium is idiotic story. Moreover, the report of the English court did not say exactly. Perhaps, maybe, possibly, we think so. Where the real evidence? As usual, they have no the real evidence. The English court sucks.
     
  7. Sly Lampost

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    By far the best investigation conducted on Litvinenko was that done by US journalist Edward Jay Epstein. It was exhaustive and detailed and based on extensive interviews. He published a lengthy article in the NY Sun HERE although there is an even more detailed essay he wrote which I can't currently find.

    When the trail of polonium contamination is traced across London with the timings, it is evident that it was Litvinenko was both the culprit and the victim.

    Meanwhile, his friend, Mario Scaramella, is in the record saying that Litvinenko told him he had been involved in a smuggling operation of nuclear materials.

    Epstein concludes that Litvinenko was involved in smuggling nuclear materials and poisoned himself with Polonium. Litvinenko was, after all, a hooker working for all sorts of murky entities and individuals, including both MI6 and MI5, Spanish intelligence, Boris Berekovsky etc. He had also earlier offered his services to the CIA who declined.

    And having said all this I remain firmly convinced that it will not have the slightest impact on those forum members who want Russia to be guilty because that suits their agenda. They'd rather believe in a trumped up inquiry report by a British judge who laces his conclusions with masses of probable's, likely's and other unconvincing caveats - even while a large portion of the apparent evidence remains subject to British state secrets.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    This is the stupidest thing I have ever read!!!

    Yeah....he poisoned himself with $10 Million worth of Polonium even though he had no buyer...no motive and was not a complete idiot!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    His hospital stay for radiation poisoning is well documented. Sounds like you have a conspiracy theory.

    I can think of three reasons. First unusual ways to die gain notoriety and then people remember not to mess with the ideally alleged group behind the assassination. They also want a method with a high likelihood of success and a high likelihood that the victim will suffer. They want it known that the person was assassinated, but it is better when it is somewhat ambiguous who did it.
    Ah yes how can we forget the ricin umbrella?
     
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    Polonium too complicated in circulation. It is the only person who was poisoned with polonium in history. The report is full of perhaps, maybe, possibly, we think so. But the Western media presented information in a way that ordinary people think that Putin did it. English court lies and sucks. Only fools believe in this nonsense.
     
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    This is not the first time the FSB/KGB has used Polonium as a painful way to kill someone.

    Such a death is reserved for those who whistle blow on Putin or former Communist Leaders.

    Litvinenko KNEW that Putin ordered the FSB to set BOMBS in Ethnic Russian Apartment Complexes in Chechnya and near the boarder as the deaths of all those innocent Russian's were blamed on Chechen Terrorists!!

    The very next thing that happened was the Russian Military took over Chechnya and SEIZED CONTROL OF ALL CHECHEN OIL RESERVES AND RIGS AND PUMPING STATIONS as well as any other industries.

    Right now the Chechen's do not get a SINGLE RUBLE of the Oil Profit Money from their own wells!!!

    ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE MONEY TRAIL....if you want to figure what is REALLY going on!!!

    And the thought that anyone having as much expertise as Litvinenko had certainly would not waste and improperly contain, transport and store $10 Million worth of Polonium because that is how much the dose of Polonium that was slipped into Litvinenko's Tea or Food is worth!!!

    Plus he would have had to DIRECTLY SWALLOW OR IMBIBE IT for it to have effectively killed him in the manner the U.K. Doctors and several U.S. DOE, CIA and CDC Doctors and Nuclear Medicine and Radiation Experts who examined Litvinenko and ALL determined that the ONLY way this could have happened is by ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT!!

    What is really funny is despite massive amounts of evidence and the very best existing evidence even more damning than the Medical Evidence is NSA INTERCEPTS of communication between PUTIN AND THE FSB DIRECTLY!!

    After Putin found out that the NSA was so powerful and so capable in it's scope....and Putin learned this when a letter was sent to Putin with the EXACT VOICE TRANSCRIPTS OF PUTIN GIVING THE GO AHEAD TO POISON Litvinenko to the head of the FSB.....along with the transcripts of communication between the Russian FSB Chief and down the line to all players including the Hit Man......THAT WAS THE MOMENT PUTIN ORDERED ALL COMPUTERS, WORD PROCESSORS, PRINTERS, CELL PHONES OR SAT PHONES AND EVEN DIGITAL WATCHES...........

    ........PUTIN HAD THEN ALL REMOVED FROM THE KREMLIN AND ALL CORRESPONDING FSB AND GRU LEADERSHIP AND PLANNING OFFICES AND STATIONS!!!

    Putin even had them remove regular electric typewriters!!!

    Putin was told by his or the Russian Version of the U.S. Cyber Command that the NSA was recording and storing every bit of electronic communication happening on, over or within or under the Planet Earth or it's Oceans!!!

    Thus Putin made a very old German Non-Electric but Manual Mechanical Typewriter company VERY HAPPY as Putin's Cyber advisers told Putin there was NOTHING SHORT of using Manual Typewriters and using CARBON PAPER TO MAKE PRINTS.....to thwart NSA Capabilities!!!

    And I kid you not....they use Manual Typewriters and Carbon Paper in the Kremlin!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    He is NOT the only Polonium Assassinated persons in the world as there are 13 suspected cases and 2 confirmed.

    The 2 confirmed? Litvinenko....and.....Yasser Arafat.

    In 2004, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat died of uncertain causes in Percy Hospital in Paris. He complained of nausea and stomach pain, suffered liver and kidney failure, and eventually lapsed into a coma before dying. In 2012, Arafat's remains were exhumed because of persistent rumors that he was the victim of an assassination that used polonium as a deadly weapon.

    A report published last week in the medical journal The Lancet confirmed that traces of polonium were found on Arafat's toothbrush, underwear and other personal items, fueling reports that he was assassinated. And Arafat isn't the first person who's believed to have been murdered by polonium.

    Yasser Arafat was most likely assassinated by a rival who wanted the $20 Billion Arafat stole from U.S. Palestinian Aid Money.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    $20 billion - you sure about that? How on earth could that much go missing yet the US continue to pay even more? Even I don't think you're that stupid!
     
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    Since Russia is the exclusive source for such potions it provides a warning to anyone else thinking of betraying mother Russia.
    As to Putin, I put nothing past the nasty little small dicked lunatic.
     
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    Or 'unresolved/unexplained death'? I'm thinking specifically about Dr David Kelly. [​IMG]
     
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    Hold on....I will give you a viable link...

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Thanks. I'll be interested to know where you get your prodigious amount of information from.
     
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    LINK.....http://www.adespicabletruce.org.uk/page31.html


    This is just the TIP of the Iceberg!!

    Both Fatah and Hamas asked the Arafat family that if they gave back the $20 Billion plus then they could keep 10%.

    The Arafat family said....NO!!!

    Then both Fatah and Hamas and Hamas was considered a Terrorist Org. ASKED THE UNITED STATES if we could penetrate Swiss Banking Laws and get the stolen Aid money back for them.

    We told them we would try but that in reality by the time we used massive U.S. Economic and Political Power and Leverage for force Swiss Banking Transparency.....the Arafat Family would by then....move the money to an Offshore account in the Cayman Islands...which is what happened!!

    The U.S. found over $875 BILLION worth or Nazi Art, Nazi Gold, Bearer Bonds, Furniture and accounts of money all taken from the Jews who died in the Gas Chambers!!!

    The U.S. and World Bank and IMF discovered several huge and very old but secured with steel beams and concrete buildings deep in the woods....BUT WITH MODERN DIGITAL LOCKING SYSTEMS!!!!

    The Swiss tried to tell us they didn't even know these buildings existed!!! NO S#!#!

    AboveAlpha

    - - - Updated - - -

    Memory and experience so that's why it takes me a few minutes to find the soures and websites on the internet but what I tell you is a fact!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Well the pages aren't numbered on that PDF but I did spot "When $326 million disappeared from PA coffers in 1996, the Palestinian Legislative Council established a special commission to investigate corruption within the PA"

    It's bad enough, but it's a lot short of £20 Billion?
     
  20. Sly Lampost

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    My guess is that you didn't read it all, hence your scepticism. Plus your need/desire to blame Putin and Russia.

    Only MSM sources that parrot the usual Neocon venom is good enough for you, Alpha. It's predictable, I'll gave you that.
     
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    Russia is not the only source of Polonium. This is a fabricated story.
     
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    As usual, a one-sided story. Yes, Arafat was dirty. But he wasn't alone ion that.

    What you're not saying is his shady dealings with a bunch of highly placed Israeli businessmen - and others - in deals designed to line their own pockets.
     
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    Got a link for that too Alpha? I like to check significant facts.
     
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    Again continuous rumors. Where the facts ??? Do you think Putin is poisoned Arafat, too ???
     
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    Fools is the most precious resource of the West. Because fools believe in any nonsense without analysis..
     

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