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So if medicine in Russia is so good as you say, why these millionaires do not have treatment at home?
No, in the West this is not the case. People are judged mostly by their professional activities, not by having friends in the relevant circles.

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What do you think would be the exchange rate for ruble-bubble? I remember you told last year that it will go to 100, but I did not believe you at that time.

 

as long as being not part of the world market, it wasn't, but look at China; they advanced after had joined world market's.

because the USSR was not a part of the world market and its financial, political and technological circulation that no country can do without.

 

it isn't a matter of taste, it is the matter of fact that Dostoevsky is at a much higher level than Pasternaks, in all respects, hard read or not.

 

How do you determine the level? By number of books? Or what? I would say it is a disputable fact.

 

man,it is not important anymore ...., in one weak in ´d be 100 and 150 , or 200... situation is very very bad, but dont worry in one year you will get 3 quite functional states and 1 retarded (Caucasus) with out much blood

[video=youtube;FKkmmRpV2QE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKkmmRpV2QE[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqHofd2Fz3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXMlv9wxx14

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you are 100% right, just look for what Muscovites are ready to pay today...only western showbiz sells in juchi ulus in 2016

 

83,54 .....

 

because medical treatment abroad is well advertised & overhyped while home healthcare is not and, moreover, is subject to persistent defamation campaigns.

then go and try get a decent job in the West, you'll see what's what.

not only the amount of books written, but also the importance of each and impact made on mankind. Dostoevsky was so deep in meaning, it puts him in the same league with Shakespeare and Tolstoy, while Pasternak is a second rate author who looked no further than worldly matters, his main characters are narrow-minded and shallow.

 

Сommon, do not think that people are stupid and do whatever advertisements tell them to do. This is already a Norma, when doctors does not give a treatment but kill the patients:
http://360tv.ru/news/vrach-do-smerti-zabil-pacienta-v-belgorodskoj-bolnice-video-43665/
Nothing like that is possible in Germany, for example.

For the impact, I am afraid some works of Pasternak are known on the West better than works of Dostoyevskiy. Doctor Zhivago was translated into 25 foreign languages, while Crime and Punishment, for example, only to 10. About shallow of the characters of Pasternak- it is just your private opinion. I think they are profound. Some likes apples, another one -oranges.

 

terrible video i saw it ...

 

people are very stupid, especially rich ones, when it comes to being affected with ads.

for that matter - http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/2015...ies-while-being-kicked-out-hospital/77772712/ - not to go by one off cases.

not some works but Dr.Zhivago alone, mostly because the CIA was behind its promotion.

 

Common, you see everywhere conspiracy. Soviet Union collapsed-CIA is to blame. Dr. Zhivago is translated to more language-that is again CIA is involved This is ridiculous. If USSR was strong enough to sustain in its borders - it did not fall apart. And noone would read Pasternak by force from CIA.
As for woman in the link you sent- she died not because the doctors hit her, but because of the actions of the police. Doctors have nothing to do with that. And we are talking here about health care, but not police care.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pasternak#Nobel_Prize

the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency released "nearly 100 declassified documents"confirming that it had, in fact, undertaken a massive propaganda campaign to influence the Nobel Prize committee to consider Zhivago for the award, starting as early as 12 December 1957: "Dr. Zhivago should be published in a maximum number of foreign editions, for maximum free world discussion and acclaim and consideration for such honor as the Nobel prize" [sic] In order to turn Pasternak's novel into an international bestseller worthy of consideration for the Nobel Prize, the CIA purchased thousands of copies of the novel as they came off the presses throughout Europe. When in the summer of 1958 the Dutch publishing house of Mouton brought out an edition of Zhivago, the CIA secretly arranged to "obtain first thousand copies of the book off the press and of these send 500 copies to the Brussels Fair" (i.e. the World's Fair held that summer in Brussels, Belgium). In its announcement of the declassification of the Zhivago documents the CIA states that it also published "thousands" of copies of Zhivago and gave them out to Soviet tourists on holiday in Western Europe and had them smuggled into the Soviet Union: "After working secretly to publish the Russian-language edition in the Netherlands, the CIA moved quickly to ensure that copies of Doctor Zhivago were available for distribution to Soviet visitors at the 1958 Brussels World’s Fair. By the end of the Fair, 355 copies of Doctor Zhivago had been surreptitiously handed out, and eventually thousands more were distributed throughout the Communist bloc. Subsequently, the CIA funded the publication of a miniature, lightweight paperback edition of Doctor Zhivago that could be easily mailed or concealed in a jacket pocket.

why go hysterical?.. schit happens - http://www.people.com/article/minne...m_campaign=zergnet_574560&xid=partner_zergnet

 

I do not talk about Nobel Prize here. He certainly deserved it with or without CIA. People finally read the novels not because they are written by Nobel laureates, but because they are interested in these novels. Of course, (*)(*)(*)(*) happens everywhere, but while for the West it is an exclusion, for Russia it more like a norm. Actually, I have never heard about cases when a doctor in a hospital killed a patient like it happened in Belgorod.

 

Are there any internet political forums in Russia?

 

then what you talk of?.. i gave you all the links necessary; go study.

are you sure? how did it come about you thinking so?.. wasn't it mass media publications you got it all from? Pasternak is loved by the media, yeah, unlike Maxim Gorky or Valentin Rasputin for example.

 

look, i already gave you two links to those 'exclusions'.

then how it is a norm since you just stumbled upon something like that for the first time in your life?

are there people in Russia?

 

What link you gave me? To Expedia? Info in Expedia is written not by specialists, but by anyone who likes writing.
I talk about what people like. They do not care if the books are awarded or not with Nobel prizes.
Very simple. Name me several other famous writers in 50s last century known all over the world who might deserve the prize?

 

In Russia, there are only Vodka, KGB agents and bears.

 

what it has changed ? many bloggers have been terrorized. all TV channels are closed for Liberals , and anti - putlerists

 

read the links posted you before hurry to reply -

the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency released "nearly 100 declassified documents"confirming that it had, in fact, undertaken a massive propaganda campaign to influence the Nobel Prize committee to consider Zhivago for the award, starting as early as 12 December 1957: "Dr. Zhivago should be published in a maximum number of foreign editions, for maximum free world discussion and acclaim and consideration for such honor as the Nobel prize" [sic] In order to turn Pasternak's novel into an international bestseller worthy of consideration for the Nobel Prize, the CIA purchased thousands of copies of the novel as they came off the presses throughout Europe. When in the summer of 1958 the Dutch publishing house of Mouton brought out an edition of Zhivago, the CIA secretly arranged to "obtain first thousand copies of the book off the press and of these send 500 copies to the Brussels Fair" (i.e. the World's Fair held that summer in Brussels, Belgium). In its announcement of the declassification of the Zhivago documents the CIA states that it also published "thousands" of copies of Zhivago and gave them out to Soviet tourists on holiday in Western Europe and had them smuggled into the Soviet Union - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pasternak#Nobel_Prize

Pasternak hadn't been known to anyone before got the Nobel prize. Ray Bradbury and his Fahrenheit 451 should have been given it.

 

As always you lie! Here hot discussion with Ukrainians and liberals for example
[video=youtube_share;fKF79IySfjU]http://youtu.be/fKF79IySfjU[/video]

PS:
[video=youtube_share;hOnjYluVhMM]http://youtu.be/hOnjYluVhMM[/video]

 

Why it should have been given to Bradbury? They are of different generations. While Bradbury started his carrier in 1950, Pasternak had already been a known writer and translator, so Bradbury could wait for the prize.
You refer to the fact that CIA advertized Doctor Zhivago. So what? If the novel was bad, noone would read it and everyone would forgot about him by now. But he is still very popular writer who is in the program of study in a Russian school. So in case if this is true what is written in the link you provided we should be very grateful to CIA for promotion of a genius Russian writer.

 

why it should be Pasternak's?

it is already 100 years the Nobel prize has been there, anually awarded, had 100 opportunities give it to Bradbury.

the point is that he never got the prize.

so what?.. nothing special, huh. CIA involvement and meddling in what you'd least expect them to.

are you off your nuts? Pasternak isn't a genius; obviously you read too few books in your life and are too ignorant. Maxim Gorky was a genius, and his The Life Of Klim Samgin contains a much harsher criticism of the Russian Revolution -

[video=youtube;bIN6xPK3JEA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIN6xPK3JEA&list=PLvm_vABNK1qY6-q6xVVyKA_9gd8pFTnaq[/video] [video=youtube;qCr6Ow9qUzI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCr6Ow9qUzI[/video]
[video=youtube;uq3VdJNoC6I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq3VdJNoC6I[/video] [video=youtube;Gtp06g9-YGA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtp06g9-YGA[/video]

- but it was only that he used to be promoted by Stalin that the West won't accept him.

PS: you personally seem to defend the indefensible by defending the ignorance cultivated by the West while concealing true masterpieces.

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Because Pasternak contributed to literature much more than Bradbury. Apart from writing novels, he was a poet and a translator. Most of Shakespare masterpieces were translated into Russian by Pasternak.
It is not Pasternak's fault that the Nobel Prize was not given to Bradbury.
This is your personal opinion that Pasternak is not a genius. I believe that he is. IMHO. And CIA has nothing to do with my opinion
I should admit I have not read Gorky The life of Klim Samgin, but it does not mean I am ignorant. I have read enough Russian books to make my judgement. And your snobbish behavior of accusing others in ignorance and thinking that people are stupid is just (*)(*)(*)(*).
P.S. By the way, most of the works by Gorky are considered weak by professionals (especially his plays).

 

really? Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 is a prophetic masterpiece that contributed to 20th century culture way more then Pasternak did.

and criticised for innacuracies like for example where Pasternak translates 'away with you traitor!' as 'away with you contradictor!' etc.