In its time of desperate need, when Ukraine finds itself with another Maidan brewing, a EU that said it will never be a member, a bankrupt economy and a Washington that doesn't seem to need it anymore, Ukraine has finally found itself a friend. They are natural allies in values and outlook, and they are both at odds with Russia over Crimea. Turkey wants Crimea for itself so they can control the Black Sea, but Poroshenko doesn't know that. All he knows is that Turkey is helping Kiev militarily to take it back.... which kind of reminds me of the proverb that: "he who deceives, will always be deceived." Little does Poroshenko know that in Erdogan's Ottoman mind, if eleven percent of a population is Turkish... (and the Tatars are Turkish), then it must be part of Turkey. Poroshenko also doesn't know, that once the Turkish army enters a country, they never leave. It's not only the Turkish army that is embedding itself in Ukraine, but an ISIS terrorist camp as well. (Poroshenko might not know that either). Turkey and Ukraine have deepened political, military and economic ties through consecutive high-level visits following the Turkish militarys downing of a Russian warplane in November 2015 and the deterioration in ties between Ankara and Moscow. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was in Ankara on March 9 for a high-level strategic cooperation council meeting as the guest of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, only three weeks after Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu paid a snap visit to Kiev. On the same day as Davutoğlu was in Kiev to hold talks with Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Ukrainian Chief of General Staff Viktor Muzhenko met with his Turkish counterpart Gen. Hulusi Akar, in a sign of intensified military and defense relations. Davutoğlus meeting with the Ukrainian president lasted around two-and-half hours. Poroshenko was accompanied by Crimean Tatar representative Abdülcemil Kırımoğlu and Rıfat Çubarov, the head of the World Crimean Tatars Congress and a member of the Ukrainian Parliament. The situation of Crimean Tatars was discussed in detail during the meetings. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...ssia-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=96250&NewsCatID=510 This is what Erdogan said at a joint conference with Poroshenko in Ankara: "Turkey does not recognize the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation and we are joint planning with Ukraine steps for its de-occupation. Turkey did not recognize the illegal annexation of Crimea and is not going to do either." http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/03/erdogan-promises-to-help-ukraine-return.html
Turkey and Ukraine can't get Crimea unless Russia lets them do it, which Russia will never do. Simply put, Russia is much stronger than Turkey and Ukraine, and especially within and close to its own territory. And of course, Russia has nukes. No military invasion of Crimea by Turks and ukrainians will ever happen. However, Crimea becomming Turkish wouldn't be that bad from a historical point of view. The tatars are the closest you can get to indigenous people in crimea. Crimea, along with the whole of the pontic caspian steppes, used to be turkish lands. The colonisation of these lands by russians and other slavs is fairly recent. I'm not saying that throwing out the russians from there is either a good idea or even possible, but people should know that these lands are former turkish lands, colonised by russia.
The pipe that directs terrorists from Europe to Syria, refugees from Syria to Europe can also direct terrorists to Crimea, they need to sell all those life jackets anyway now that Europe closed its gates, instead of Med sea - Black sea.
Crimea was Greek/Byzantine for thousands of years before the Tatars conquered it. It was the place where Prince Vladimir was baptized, so it is the religious foundation of the Russian Empire. This is why it is so important to the Russians, something that the West refuses to understand. Before WWII, sixty thousand Greeks from Crimea were deported by Stalin for refusing to collectivize. ...so the Tatars were not the only ones forced to leave. When Catherine the Great took over Crimea, she was freeing the Orthodox Christians from Tatar rule, and putting the land back under the Orthodox Church. As for Turkey, don't underestimate their intentions. ISIS right now has a training camp nearby Crimea in Ukraine, and some militant Tatars with close connections to Turkey had destroyed the electric plants, so that Crimea was in the dark for a long time. Before that they had blockaded all food going to Crimea, and before that they blockaded water which was needed for irrigation. Of course all these things are endearing the people of Crimea to Ukraine even more so. Is it any wonder when an international poll was taken to find out if the people still wanted to remain with Russia, the percentage was higher than before.
No legitimate nation recognizes the Russian illegal annexation of Crimea. I doubt either nation is planing on a military solution to this issue, but I think that something most certainly should be done.
Well, the US for one isn't a legitimate nation is it. It's an oligarchy run by a secret cabal using an above top secret law (COG) to impose it's will on the world. And it nurtured and inflamed the coup d'etat in Ukraine in the first place, knowing that Russia would have to respond. So away with your "legitimate" nation BS please.
It is already done, people - Crimeans live in Russia and are happy [video=youtube_share;ROA2obHOZsM]http://youtu.be/ROA2obHOZsM[/video]
Don't you know Kiwi, it doesn't matter what the people want, democracy is only a word Washington uses to fool people. The only thing that matters is what Washington wants, this is why they never write that the Crimean people voted to re-unite with Russia, but rather that Russia annexed it.
There's no argument to use for the stupidity that you just said other then to call it for what it is. Stupidity.
The fact is that you - in particular - so very often resort to throw away ad homs when you run out of arguments. Ergo: truth hurts. What I said hit home, clearly.
No. It didn't. It's simply that it was literally pointless and thus I feel it doesn't warrant an actual response. I can do that you know.
Okay, the truth doesn't hurt you - fair enough - you're immune to that sort of thing now. That, however, doesn't change the fact that you regularly resort to ad homs when all else fails. As it often does.
