Putin announces withdrawal. Says the objective is achieved

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  1. Sly Lampost

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    An interesting and relevant article from ConsortiumNews

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    We were talking about a pipeline through Syria from Qatar. I don't know what you are going on about.
     
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    Are they innocent Syrian civilians, or families of the terrorists that moved in after the original inhabitants left? If this was not so, why are the women wearing the Nijab?

    As for the rest of the city, it wasn't the Russians who bombed the the electric and water purifying plants, and leaving the inhabitants succeptible to cholera. Actually the Russians were shocked as to why the Americans wanted the people to suffer...unless the intent was to create refugees to swarm Europe.

    Of course the attack on the infrastructure might have been Turkish pilots since they fly American jets and leave from the same airport. It should please you though to know that the plants have now been repaired by the Syrian army and are working once again.

    Anyway Turkey's bombardment of Aleppo hasn't stopped even with the peace agreement, so more than likely they're the ones who hit the fruit market.
     
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    Are you saying that the Syrian people should be forced to live under a strict fundamentalist regime under sharia law because that's what KSA, Qatar, Turkey, Israel and Washington wants, even though it's not what the Syrian people want? Are you aware that the majority of men in Assad's army are Sunnis who do not want to live under a fundamentalist regime?
     
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    That's not what the Saudis want at all. That's an invention in YOUR head. The SAG is slowly and surely reforming .. They have been for years.

    The young clerics started teaching 5-6 years ago that what passes for Islam and what many Muslims believe to be Islamic is not.. Its simply the inculcation of ancient tribal customs into the faith,
     
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    Under control? Isis is as strong and dangerous today as it was when Russia started its campaign. Do you deny that Isis's numbers continue to swell and that they still control vast swaths of Iraqi and Syrian territory tormenting hundreds of thousands daily?

    If you can come up with and argument to defend Putjns "objective accomplished" statement id love to hear it but I think it would be best for everyone if we just agree to skip past the theatrics. We all know Isis was never Putins objective. He most likely doesn't even give a rats ass about them. Isis was never anything more then an excuse for him to get his troops in Syria and drive back the anti Assad rebels so he could save Assads ass.

    That is literally the only explanation. The ceasefire with the rebels looks like it will hold, so that's the objective accomplished, clearly not Isis.

    Only other explanation is that he just can't afford to continue with the campaign.

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    His point was to stop the rebels advance to save Assads ass. That has been accomplished.
     
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    Putin hasn't "saved Assad's ass"........ When this is over it won't be business as usual for the Assad family....
     
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    After introduction of troops of the USA to Afghanistan, production of drugs has increased. (Swiss journalist R. Labevyer)
    This drug comes to Russia and Europe...

    In Syria probably too it is necessary to arrange production of this vital product and to deliver to the neighboring Middle Eastern countries.
     
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    The Syrian opposition is ‘not against’ the idea of direct talks with President Bashar Assad’s government, the spokesman for the main opposition alliance has said.
    Salim al-Muslat, spokesman for the Saudi-backed High Negotiations Committee, talked to journalists on Tuesday, ahead of the group’s first meeting with UN special envoy for Syria, Staffan de Mistura, in Geneva, Switzerland.

    "We are not against direct talks, but you know de Mistura decided to start with indirect talks," Muslat is cited as saying by Reuters.



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    A Russian Su-25 attack aircraft takes off from the Khmeimim airbase in Syria. © Dmitriy VinogradovRussian warplanes start leaving Syria on Putin's orders




    The UN envoy proposed a 10-day round of indirect “proximity talks” between the sides, but the opposition spokesman said he expects de Mistura to switch to a format of direct talks later.

    Earlier, De Mistura explained the "proximity" format would give him more flexibility when shuttling between opposition and government, and also when consulting with others parties on the sidelines.

    "As long as we have a solution, as long as we have relief for our people we don't mind what form the negotiation is," Muslat said.

    According to the opposition spokesman, Russia’s decision to withdraw its military from Syria, which President Vladimir Putin announced on Monday, is a positive step in the Syrian peace process, RIA-Novosti reported.

    The Russian president explained that the five-month anti-terror operation in Syria has generally fulfilled its tasks. It has shifted the balance of power in favor of government troops and allowed the peace talks to begin.

    The ceasefire brokered by Moscow, Washington and the UN began in Syria on February 27, with only terrorist groups Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and Jabhat Al-Nusra excluded from the truce.

    The Russian Foreign Minister praised Saudi Arabia for its constructive work with the Syrian opposition.

    "We are grateful to our Saudi colleagues that this group, in contrast to the mood it had in January [when the opposition walked out of the talks], now seems to be serious about joining the inter-Syrian political process,” Lavrov said on Tuesday.

    READ MORE: Only alternative to Syria peace talks is ‘even worse war’ – de Mistura

    The civil war in Syria broke out in March 2011, and has claimed over 250,000 lives, according to UN estimations.
     
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    Saudi Arabia has had talks with Vladimir Putin recently, so this might account for their change of attitude to Assad and Syria.
     
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    More speculation on your part.
     
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    What I mean is that the rebels haven't taken over Syria. Putin drove them back and now there is the ceasefire. I highly doubt Assad will remain in power much longer.
     
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    That was because the Taliban needed money in order to combat the US. In case you weren't aware, Afghanistan isn't exactly a nation abundant with many resources. Opium is one of the few things they could mass produce.

    Are you suggesting the Russians are trying to turn Syria into a drug farm?
     
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    I show how the US do...

    "After occupation by NATO of Afghanistan, production of drugs has increased. Swiss journalist R. Labevyer, author of the book "Terror dollars. He claim Americans receive excess profits from ''drugs business" and financing of terrorists. About it also the documentary movie made - "Base" ...

    Other Researchers claim that "Bush's administration made light of prompt increase in production of heroin".(didn't destroy it)

    Deputy of the State Duma Andrey Kokoshin: "All proposals of the American allies on NATO to liquidate these enterprises for processing of opium in heroin have been rejected by American Boss.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001–14)#Drug_trade RUS
     
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    The Taliban forbid growing Opium poppies......
     
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    While they were the official government of Afghanistan. That quickly changed after they were taken out of power.
     
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    Uhhuh. Any other conspiracy theories you'd like to share? I was there for a good long while. Can't for the life of me remember ever guarding one of the opium fields or farming it or loading it up to be shipped to the states. I remember using artillery to destroy a couple of fields. But that doesn't really fit in with your theory does it?
     
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    True.. but, Afghanistan actually is rich in natural resources.. The Chinese have several mining operation there a completed a railroad in the north a couple of years ago.

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    True.. but, Afghanistan actually is rich in natural resources.. The Chinese have several mining operation there a completed a railroad in the north a couple of years ago.
     
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    You claims it to authors but not to me...

    But many authors tell how the American democracy works now.
    www.google.co.nz/search?q=сша+и+героин+в+афганистане&client=opera&biw=1024&bih=480&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM3bva8MPLAhViNqYKHRPqB_MQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=USA+and+heroin+in+Afghanistan
    For example:

    if you are belong the Taliban, US allows you to make drugs...

    if you belong Al-Qaeda, US finances you by money...

    if you are a moderate Syrian terrorist, the US - dumped from a plane the weapon (at night)...

    if you belong ISIS, the US allow you to trade by oil... etc.
    [​IMG]
     
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    went broke....
     
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    Oh then the news report was wrong, and there were no talks between Russia and Saudi Arabia? I'm so glad you're here to clarify everything for me Margot. What would I do without you. :wall:
     
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    Oh they do for sure. My apologies on not being specific on this. I meant resources that they themselves have the means and the know how that would allow them to accumulate.
     
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    And if you belong to the Russian internet trolls you are a waste of life. See what I did there?

    Anyway. No to the first. No to the second and no to the third example. More bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) human being.

    Are those pictures supposed to mean something. Photos of people standing in a field? What does that prove?
     
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    Thanks for posting that because if I'd replied my BP would have gone through the ceiling: They simply do not get it do they! :wall: Depressing really! I mean surely anyone who read a few of the recent threads on the topic would pause to wonder if Russia is the Evil Empire the MSM would like us to believe. Or put another way - there's only one Evil Empire in the game and it certainly isn't Russia.
     
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    From what I understand from Bitter Lake, the US encouraged it. In fact when the narrative went on to say that the dam which the US built across the Helmand 'raised salt levels in the surrounding environs, which made it ideal for the growing of poppies' I found myself wondering if it was the very reason that the dam was built.
     

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