Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Atheism

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  1. Electron

    Electron Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course not. Philosophers can disagree, what then? ;)

    You tell me. ;)

    Atheism is the rejection of supernatural claims made by theists.

    Atheists that make unprovoked attacks on Christianity or any other religion are doing it wrong, IMO. But counterattacks are perfectly legit.
     
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    Hmm.. so what is the source of this 'self evident truth'? A divinely inspired conscience? Natural Law? Moral relativism? HOW & WHY would any altruistic notions 'evolve' in a purely naturalistic setting? The 'fittest' is the only criteria for survival & selection. Weakening traits like altruistic morality would be a detriment to survival, so why is it there?
     
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    A power greater than I.

    Who knows? I do not see altruism as limited to humans as a google of "altruism in the animal kingdom" returns some interesting results.
     
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    Ever hear of a circular argument?

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  5. domer76

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    "The Bible is the word of God"
    "How can you be sure it's the word of God?"
    "Because the Bible tells us so"
    "Why believe the Bible?
    "The Bible is infallible"
    "How do you know it's infallible?"
    (return to top)
     
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    Do you do what's right or not right out of fear of punishment?
     
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    Early barbarians or civilization never thought that rape is wrong until Christianity reach them that they started to understand that rape is wrong.
    What will you say to other atheist that think rape in not wrong?
    Yes, we Christians accept rape is wrong and it is a sin.
    If you by self evident ever since you gain reasoning knew rape is wrong then you are one of the special atheist that can differentiate good from evil?
     
  8. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    So, how would atheist police or differentiate what is right and wrong if each individual can determine their own standard? This is why we have terrorist like those Islamist and oppressive regimes like communism.

    Then this defeat the concept of atheism since everyone is subject to the accepted moral laws.


    So, atheist is chaos?
     
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    So if the consensus is to raid, rape and steal that is consider morally right according to atheism?
     
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    If majority of philosophers disagreed with atheist is that acceptable?

    Atheist just want to attack Christianity that's all it is. That is why none of their books contain any substance it is all bashing God all sorts of theories no concrete guide and laws except communist Red Books that contain lots of laws and regulations.

    How about supernatural made by science do atheist rejects it?
    The Bible is no supernatural in fact atheist book such as The God Delusion is full of supernatural claims why atheist didn't reject that book?


    So why can't atheist present a convincing argument with facts and substance how come they always use God to prove their claims?
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    I do right and not evil because I was educated right in a Christian University. If I had studied in North Korea or in an atheist education I would not be able to differentiate good from evil, fiction from reality.
     
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    Why not? Are you unable to use the brain that your god gave you?

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    It's not. Where did you get that bizarre idea? Indoctrination?
     
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    Thanks' to God's given gift plus Christian education I was able to learn and tell other kids that it is wrong to steal other kids toys, it is wrong to break other kids toys, it is wrong to shop lift, it is wrong to be a bully.

    Question:
    So if the consensus is to raid, rape and steal is that consider morally right according to atheism?
     
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    What kind of miserable person were you before? You stole and broke other kids' toys and were a bully?

    No, your idea of that "consensus" is wrong. Where did you get that screwed up idea? Your "Christian" school?
     
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    I was a miserable kid until I got my Christian education I became a not miserable kid.
    Thanks to my Christian upbringing I was able to tell the other kids that it is wrong to steal and break other kids toys and because those kids were none religious they did not understand why it is wrong not to break other kids toys they think it is fun and right. Were you like one of those kids?

    Question:
    So if the consensus is to raid, rape and steal is that consider morally right according to atheism?
    According to some atheist as long as the consensus is there the action is right. Do you agree?
     
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    No, I wasn't one of those kids and I didn't need Jesus to tell me it was wrong to know that it was.

    Your concept of atheists and atheism is all effed up. Did your "Christian" indoctrinators tell you those lies?

    How old ARE you? 12?
     
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    I got my information about atheism from atheist. Are you saying they were lying?
    Is this the reason why you are so heavily indoctrinated because you did not have a Christian education?
    So how come kids need to be told or educated that it is wrong or right to break other kids toys can't they be just like you born since day one to know that it is wrong?
     
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    You got bad information. I'm actually beginning to think it is you who is lying. At least, to yourself.

    Many "Christians" will tell you it's OK to discriminate against gays. Deny them all civil rights. So you would do that because a"Christian" told you so?

    Kids need instruction on right and wrong in their formative years, but they certainly don't need Jesus for that. Whoever told you that is lying and you are incredibly gullible to believe it.
     
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    I got my information about theism from theists. Are you saying they were lying?

    Is this the reason why you were so heavily indoctrinated? Because you did not have an atheist education?

    Note: theists must answer the same question.
     
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    So if the consensus is that God has commanded people to raid, rape and steal is that considered morally right according to theism?
     
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    Well, we know that something can't come from nothing. Thus, something must have always existed. Was it God or the universe?

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    Where is the evidence that the universe always existed?
     
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    I also want to add that no one, absolutely no one gets their moral values from religious text.
     
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    No. it is incomprehensible because it has so many grammatical errors. If English is not your first language then I commend you on trying. If English is your first language then you need to go back to school, pronto.
     
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    You mistake me. I'm not pointing any fingers. I get it, the Muslims are morons now. They were once on top, and now they're in the dark ages.

    God will continue to put them in a bad spot until the I come to their senses. Perhaps it will take a major war.

    The perpetrators were Muslims, yes. Islam has a problem, and the problem will continue to grow.

    It's prophecy!
     
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    Atheist have been telling me always to go away or to go back to school using my bad English as an excuse to their no answer about athiesm.
     

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