Clinton says Bernie isn't really a democrat

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  1. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    Well duh!....But thanks for pointing that out Shrill. I guess she thinks she can win the election without Bernie supporters....kinda like Romney thinking he could win with just the rich white vote.
     
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    Clinton says Bernie isn't really a democrat One of the few non-lies she has spoken about anything... You go girl, batting 1 for 1000000 keep it up...
     
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    so is bernie lying or trying to mislead people when he calls himself a democratic socialist?
     
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    Commie and dem , not that far apart . :wink:
     
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    RonnieFan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, your right. Spelled differently, means the same thing.
     
  6. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    You offer two negatives only....lying or misleading. The nazis did the same to the Jews....ironic that Bernie is a Jew. The nazis overthrew the "democratic socialists" in 1933 and banned the party. What do you think the "I" stands for next to Sanders name? You'll never guess....it's INDEPENDENT!
     
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    what i dont think think clinton and her cliq understand is this is a positive. Neither side wants a republican or a democrat lol.
     
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    Like conservative and fascist being the same thing. (((wink)))
     
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    Hillary Clinton is a rich lawyer who lives in a gigantic mansion, and she thinks she can define who is a Democrat or not?
     
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    no he is running as a democrat, says it right on his website. and the nazi's were socialists i think you meant they overthrew the communists.
    https://berniesanders.com/?nosplash=true/
     
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    I suspect he purposely describes himself as a democratic socialist to avoid the establishment and 'welfare state' connotations that would come with labeling himself as a social democrat, which seems to be much more in line with his platform.

    He's made comments about the distinction in the past, and his definition of democratic socialism reads like a high regulation, high oversight economy coupled with universal taxpayer-funded programs relating to healthcare, education, etc.
     
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    yeah, he only spent his entire political career as an independent

    Hitler did suppress the Communists, but he didn't overthrow them because they were never in power to begin with.
     
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    Well at least you refrained from the racist word .:wink::wink:
     
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    Bernie and Hillary are both slugs, one is just a bit better of a liar and a little bit younger!
     
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    He's a commie.

    And she's a corporate shill.

    LOL @ the Dems attacking each other

    That didn't last long :lol:
     
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    Maybe he isn't giving away enough free stuff ! :roflol:
     
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    He didn't overthrow socialists either.
     
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    He is running as a Democratic nominee because they are more closely aligned with his beliefs than are the Republicans. He has long been an independent and, in my opinion, so far left that he could be called a socialist.
     
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    Sanders is listed as an independent in the senate along with King from Maine although both caucus with the Democrats. When Sanders ran for re-election he was listed as an independent, not a Democrat.

    http://monktonvt.com/documents/2012/10/2012-general-election-sample-ballots.pdf

    Since there is no party registration in Vermont, perhaps it is up to him. Then again, why does most of his paper work still refer to him as an independent?

    So is he or isn't he.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/23/bernie-sanders-democrat/
     
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    good luck finding another socialist who isnt a democrat or a democrat who isnt a socialist. you're confused because there is little to no difference
     
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    Communist here.

    No. Dear god, no.
     
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    The Weimar Republic (which was made up of the "Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany" and the "Social Democratic Party of Germany") was the predecessor of Nazi Germany
     
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    The ignorance of political history around here is a marvel to behold. Yes, Sanders is a democratic socialist in the sense that FDR and LBJ were democratic socialists. FDR stole most of his best ideas from Eugene Debs, who was the first US democratic socialist. But Clinton is correct in one sense. Sanders is not really a Democrat, at least by the current definition of Democrat (exemplified by Obama and the Clintons). These current Democrats (85-90% of the party) are more closely comparable to Nixon and Dole, while Sanders is a holdover from the New Deal.

    Both parties have evolved significantly rightward in the past 50 years, to the point that calling anybody a "real" democrat or republican is problematic. There are zero "real" republicans today, if Eisenhower is your standard.

    Politics is a little like country music radio. Is Florida Georgia Line or Luke Bryan "real" country? If Hank Williams is your standard, the answer is no.

    So really there are no real republicans and democrats anymore. The days when we had guys like Dirksen and Sam Rayburn are gone. The heavyweights are gone and we have the frat boys running the show now.
     
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    Hey in this wacky year we have some Republicans claim the Our.Dear.Leader Trumpf is not a real Republican.

    Cruz is actually not a real American.

    Hillary is probably not a real woman according to some people.

    Rubio is questionably a human being i have been told.
     

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