It seems as if Trumps rise in this election cycle is primarily a result of his massive media exposure repeating everything he says. Now it seems his downfall is the result of massive media exposure repeating everything he says. Should he just stop talking and hope the momentum carries him forward vs. speaking and making it worse?
Your assumption that Trump's rise is a result of media exposure is false. His pro-American, anti-PC, pro-middle class, anti-illegal immigrant message resonates with huge swathes of voters who don't feel represented by either party. Your assumption that Trump is in downfall is also baseless. He will get delegates in Wisconsin and one week later he will sweep NY and then the rest of North East. Your assumption that the media is merely repeating everything he says is also false. The media (together with the Republican establishment) is waging an all out war against Trump, they pulled all the stops and don't even bother trying to appear unbiased. It's non-stop 24/7 Trump bashing and demonization.
I see...but, I wonder where you heard about "His pro-American, anti-PC, pro-middle class, anti-illegal immigrant message", I am also curious to know how your predictions pan out and why you so confidently proclaim them regardless of what is being reported by the media you never heard from about Trump.
LOL, come on, he is of course the most available to the media and unscripted candidate in the last century. (it's a bad thing, isn't it? We want smooth non-committal professional politicians whose every word is focus group tested, don't we? ) Anyway, it's his message, his platform that resonates with voters. If voters disagreed with what he had to say, no amount of media exposure would propel him to his status of presumptive nominee, don't you think? People listen to the words coming out of his mouth, not the media pundits and talking heads who've been trashing him non-stop for almost a year now.
In other words you do not disagree with the premise of the thread I started, but felt the need to interject some TrumpHumping to derail it. Golly....thanks for the useful input(SIC).
I absolutely disagree. His message, his unlimited availability to the media, his unscripted style, his debates perfermance are responsible for his unprecedented rise, not the media. He earned it fair and square while the premise of your OP is that the media gave it to him.
Trump: 47 Cruz: 29 Kasich: 22 That's Pennsylvania, not NY. Some downfall LOL http://www.scribd.com/doc/306816619/CBS-News-2016-Battleground-Tracker-Pennsylvania-April-2016
The shlock tv personality is one of their own, he knows the sort of outrageous behaviour that attracts free coverage, and he has played them like Jascha Heifetz a Stradivarius. All that footage of his ravings - vicious, loony, factually false, and often contradictory - was finally providing his GOP rivals and the anti-Trump Republican PACS with a wealth of material with which to savage the buffoon tycoon. They waited much to long. The Democratic presidential campaign could consist of just re-running the footage with the addendum, "Hillary Clinton approves this message." .
I'm not a liberal, but I really can't stand his immigration and foreign relations policies; I have a very, very negative view of both a Trump presidency, and a Sanders presidency, because both of them are giving the distinct impression that they would run us into the ground. Leaving aside the religious and immigration debates, a 45% tax on Chinese goods would grind our economy to a halt. We can't rebuild manufacturing infrastructure in a day, and it's arguable that we would even want to, leaving aside precisely who would be working there, since we'll need every bit of labor available to run the farms now lacking cheap labor. I also, no offense intended, really really doubt that he can actually rise to the top. Remember, even if it seems like everyone is ripping into him, this is before the Democrats actually align against him, and he still can't win majorities. 3/4ths of women in general disapprove of him; you can't just recover from that in the general election, particularly when running against the first woman president-to-be.
I don't think there's any denying that a large part of Trump's rise has been due to media coverage, but not in the way you seem to think. So many of the pro-Trumpers I know became pro-Trump after seeing the way that major media sources on both sides of the political spectrum have lied about him, twisted his words, and sensationalized nearly every statement he's made. The patricians are doing anything they can to get rid of him, and to many people that's a huge indication that he's got the interest of the plebians in mind. I'll believe he's entered a downfall when I see it.
Not "Gave" it to him as he is quite skilled at using the media to his benefit, he has simply offered himself after getting people exited and the media cannot resist the ratings. Regardless, this is only half of the premise and you have decided to ignore the other part. Rather than explain your admiration and sweet spot for Donald Trump...perhaps you could contribute you opinmion of the second less pleasant aspect?
I think part of it is that Trump has been around for a while. His desperate need for attention is YUGE! That being said, I think your premise has merit. The media was and is more than happy to feel the attention void that he has. At first, people just thought he was doing his typical showboating and laughed at his buffoonery. Now they realize that he's probably serious and are starting to look at his statements with considerably more scrutiny.
At this point, it doesn't really matter. He has no chance at the GOP nomination, so it's a moot point. Who cares? However, it may become interesting (possibly), in the future, if Trump runs on a Sore Loser 3rd Party.
LOL, you are making it way too complicated. He runs for president, he has a message, he goes on TV, sits down with reporters and sells his message to the public. Your attempt to twist this into something somehow negative is noted but the credit for Trump's amazing success goes to Trump, not the media as your OP implied. The media has been doing its utmost to derail him but it has not banned or censored him yet which seems to be what you're implying they should have done
He is already running on a third party platform and the GOP is finally figuring it out. Far too late at this point as the damage is already done.
He is 30% ahead in NY and 20% ahead in PA which guarantees that he will sweep the North East, California and Washington.
As you are obviously not interested in discussing the premise of this thread in preference of Humping the Trump leg.....We are done here. Have fun stormin' the castle.
It doesn't matter what he says as the media will trash him either way. If they can't find a way they will find one of the millions who support him they can attack - and then blame it on Trump. Plus they can make Trump saying anything they want by selective editing. The media elites have gone fully hysterical.
If possible....Any Moderator that would do so....PLEASE Delete this thread, as it is a pointless "discussion" and will serve no purpose.
This could be correct. WI was always more Cruz than Trump country. The 538 pace was always for Trump to take 18 in WI but for Cruz to take 33. I think Trump may lag that by a bit. And Holy Crap have the WI polls swung against the fat little lying felon. 538 has Sanders leading in 4 of the last 5 polls in WI. New York - 50% Winner Take All Threshold. 538 has Trump at 50% or better in the last 5 polls. That would be YUGE! Md is by CD and Trump leads by about 8. He will split these but probably take the large chunk. PA he leads by a bunch but 2/3rds of the delegates are uncommitted. DE is winner take all. RI is proportional Yes. He will be truly battle-hardened by the General, Hillary is still playing frogger, she is the fat little frog and man are those cars going fast! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-republican/
