Why should people be allowed to own 2 houses?

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  1. webrockk

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    jesus (*)(*)(*)(*)ing christ
     
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    How does someone's thinking become this screwed up? You begin with "should people be allowed"... I ask allowed by whom? Who is qualified to be my "authority"? If I have worked hard enough to afford 2 houses, then who the hell has authority over me to restrict that? If someone else is a (s)(*)(i)(t)bum and does not want to work or spends their money faster than they can earn it, why the hell do they deserve a house?

    Life does not guarantee the right to anything, it only offers the opportunity to compete. If you cannot compete, then you do not deserve. That is how life works and you cannot change the rules without repercussions that play themselves out in due time.
     
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    You do make a valid point.
    However, they will claim there is a social cost. Those who do not make it, will choose crime to survive and have the things they see others enjoy. That's why the statists steal money from others to provide them with housing, food etc. But, as we've seen they still persist with a life of crime, despite having these things provided for them. So, that just proves socialism doesn't work. The stiff regulations inhibit the freedoms necessary for the poor to have their own businesses. The statists need them to to remain poor so they can work for a corporation of stockholders, rather than themselves.
     
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    It's not the lack of government/laws that need justification, but to the contrary it is the presence of government and laws that need to be justified
     
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    Society either thrives or degenerates according to moral reasoning. The moral risk associated with the idea that it is acceptable to steal the fruits of a mans labor in order to redistribute them to others is about as immoral and unsustainable as it can be.

    Every man is entitled to what he earns, and no more. It is never moral to steal another's property without consent regardless of circumstance. A society is no different than a building in that if it is not built on a solid foundation, it will sooner or later crumble and fall. Ethics and morals are the foundation of any society.
     
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    I hope I didn't scare him/her away by mentioning working, I was beginning to have fun:wink:
     
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    Agree completely. The cost of most things have been inflated almost out of existence for the average working stiff. You cannot generate a durable, stable economy when the peasants represent more than 1/2 the country.
     
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    Yes but just think about all the things you wouldn't have if they didn't excise some form of property taxes. Dumber population (even dumber than now), roadways, land fills, clean water, other utilities (or supplements for utilities), and overpaid irresponsible corporate sock puppet politicians looking out for someone other than the general public's best interests. So it is kind of a necessary evil, only the problem is the public doesn't hold their public servants responsible, and accountable as the employees they actually are.
     
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    For the exact same reason some people families have more than one car or
    Bank account.Maybe take 2 vacations a year instead of one.That is the beauty of
    Capitalism.It rewards instead of penalizes.If you want mandated One House per
    family then Bernie is your guy.Like Winston Churchill said :
    " The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing
    of blessings: the inherent vice of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
     
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    Like I said, free will shows what a person truly is. Did you assume I thought, I was the best person in the world?
     
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    But the fact that they can take your house if you are unable to pay is BS. Some people fall on hard times, should they lose their house? They should gain their income from a sales tax, not by taxing only people who own property.
     
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    So because they'll plunder and loot you if we don't get them free stuff, we have to plunder and loot you?

    Am I getting that right?
     
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    You make it sound as if there are not enough houses or supplies to build more. Everyone who wants one and is willing to work for it can and do have houses. Not everyone wants one or is capable of ownership.
     
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    You were destined to be the way you are. You chose nothing. And you can't change. Unless it also is in your destiny.
     
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    One makes his own destiny. Fate has nothing to do with it. Decisions do.
     
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    Depends if one is a believer in the omniscient being.
     
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    BS...pure BS
     
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    For the most part it is individual decisions that produce why we are, where we are, but other circumstances ar any given time affect our behavior and decisions. Some call it luck, but it is mostly what we, ourselves, do with the circumstances we find ourselves in. If we do nothing then fate will produce the direction for you and you might think your decisions are BS, but you made the decision to do nothing. So it is your dcision.
     
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    Have a friend today as a matter of fact who is down town right now trying to buy his house back at public auction because they made a mistake on taxes he already paid. They say 3 years ago he didn't pay his taxes, and when he provided a receipt showing he had paid, they determined, the late fees and court costs were still his responsibility, so even though he paid the annual tax fee, he owes $1500.00 in fees and court costs to reclaim his house, even though it was their mistake that caused the fines and court costs to begin with. They told him it was his fault because he waiting so long to get it straightened out. Which in itself is an amazing feat since he didn't know about their clerical error until they placed the lean on his home and informed him it would be sold at public auction in 30 days. He still might lose his house if somebody bids higher than he does this very morning at the auction. The $1500.00 is the starting bid.
     
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    That implies not having free will. I don't believe anybody has been destined to become a crackhead, rather a choice. Therefore we all choose something as opposed to your nothing.
     
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    Good example of abuse by government. Government consists of people who can abuse their position. What is the statists don't see the connection between this and the 'evil' corporations that they claim have abused people. Like somehow government officials are immune from being corrupted.
     
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    Power corrupts, and it doesn't matter if it is wealth that permits it or government authority that allows it, they are both wrong and should be identified as the criminals they are.
     
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    And how would you know if this 'destiny' is made up in your own mind, or the mind of others' trying to enforce their will upon you from their own sick minds?
     
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    Everything about your life is set in stone before you were born. It is all preplanned and nothing you can do will change it with omniscient being knowing and controlling all things.
    But this it OT.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I wouldn't know. The omniscient creator does however.
     
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    This just gets more amusing.
    And how will you know what his 'destiny' is for your life, skippy?
     

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