In search of... Any actual supporters for Hillary out There?

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  1. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    If there's anything worse than Hillary herself, it would be Hillary's policy positions.
     
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    What's so wrong about her policy positions?
     
  3. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    All I've heard from her is feminist BS. Give me any real policy position she has, and I will show you a bad policy. It would be like expecting the correct time from a broken clock, except a broken clock is actually right twice a day.
     
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    Okay, now tell me precisely how those are bad ideas?

    In addition; while I may not support her views on foreign intervention and certain aspects of affordable care, I still don't see anyone better.
     
  5. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like something a pie-in-the-sky college student would write, one having no concept of the real world and no concept of value engineering or free markets; a policy that would be nothing more than Solyndra on steroids. You could get a better policy from a Miss America contestant.

    When the government funds bad economic models, you get bad outcomes for everyone involved.

    Hillary belongs in prison, not in any role reforming prisons.
     
  6. bclark

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    Let's see. Solar = Offshore Power Production to China.

    Cut energy waste in US homes will never happen under her. Quite the opposite. Under Obama, the new working class Americans can't afford homes. They've become a generation of renters. Landlords just pass the energy waste on to their tenants.

    Reduce US oil consumption will happen by strangling the US economy even further. Forget about more jobs.

    The prison system needs change. It doesn't need a bunch of laws to fix it though. How about paying the prison industry less money overall for repeat offenders. Perhaps even charging them for prisoners that recommit. As long as prisons make more money from repeat convicts, than reforming criminals you will never reform anyone in jail.
     
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    Pretty much everything she's promising is just a continuation and enhancement of what the current president wants to do and is doing, and the US is doing pretty well right now. Anyone can say 'bleh, that wouldn't work, bleh' but I'm not exactly hearing any other sane politicians making solid proposals. Sanders=Doesn't understand economics, Trump=Doesn't understand immigration, Cruz=Doesn't understand moderate religion, Kasich=Doesn't understand that he probably can't win the election.

    Also, this thread has officially been answered, since you have, in fact, found a Hillary Clinton supporter.
     
  8. Woolley

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    I will vote for Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general with happiness. Your list forgot killing Vince Foster....I think she also watched passively while the Seals killed OBL, the nerve of that woman.
     
  9. bclark

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    Sounds like you don't rely of your income to support a family. And when you have kids you'll wonder why they can't find jobs. Even though you voted for the same person that offshored all the jobs.
    How ironic. The corruption in our country is a multi-billion dollar industry. Why not look at what industry is funding the campaign that you 'support' before casting your ballot. You do know that FOX, MSNBC, and all of the other networks get paid to put out favorable or unfavorable news coverage don't you. I sure hope you aren't using that to judge the quality of the candidates.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/
     
  10. bclark

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    By doing good, you mean workers are doing the same. The average annual salary is still where it was almost 10 years ago. The only difference is that stuff costs a lot more. Funny how Clinton's NAFTA worked.
     
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    So, of Hillary's positions, which do you support and why?
     
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    Cut energy waste by a third, Lololololol. Deeer lowered.
     
  13. Seth Bullock

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    I think her policy positions are fluff. "Good jobs for Americans" is her policy, but she has no concrete plan to stop the outflow of jobs and industry to other countries. What concrete steps does she want to take to stop that?

    Does she have a tax plan?

    What is her formula for balancing the federal budget?

    What is her plan for the inner cities?

    How does she plan to stop illegal immigration?

    What is her plan for democracy and peace in Syria after she succeeds at causing the violent overthrow of Syria's government?

    What does she propose to stop the meteoric rise in medical insurance premiums?



    In my opinion her entire platform is that the status quo is just fine, and she will "stay the course".
     
  14. Woolley

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    I work for a living and have been doing for since about 1970. My family is fine and I hate to break it to you but I am very affluent as well. Lastly, I have been a political junkie since I was almost sent to Nam, that is around 40 odd years of reading a newspaper every day. In the last 20 years, I have been wasting my time arguing with conservatives about politics just about every day. The one thing you can legitimately criticize me for is that I keep trying but fail miserably, to the best of my knowledge, not one single conservative has ever changed their mind about anything since the mid-60s.
     
  15. bclark

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    So you use your prosperity to demonize those who don't like having their jobs off-shored. Most people in my generation (about 5 years younger) are struggling to stay employed. Wages for us are about the same as when Bill Clinton first signed NAFTA. It sucked then for us, and we can't even imagine even considering voting for a candidate who thinks it was "Good for America".
     
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    Well, not sure why you believe I endorsed all those free trade agreements, I did not and still do not. But I am a realist in that I understand that for the last 40 years, most economists and politicians bought into the Milton Friedman worldview which is why so many of these problems were created by both parties acting in what they thought was the best interest of the nation and themselves. I for one never bought, Bernie did not like it much either. As for Herr Drumpf, he is a newcomer to the trade issue, a new convert if you will just like Hillary. So on this score, one can say that we have all been duped and that we may now be waking up. Trade has been good for the same "America" that thought tax cuts were good or that passive income should be taxed lower or that estate taxes were a death tax. All of this comes from that same right wing economic model Reagan sold to us, at that time, the left was Keynesian. I was not a fan of Bill Clinton's economics policies but he was far better than old man Bush...
     
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-...bernie-sanders-for-a-month-now_b_9567212.html

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    Agreed. Bush was a bag or rocks for the economy.
     
  19. k995

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    If you check the hilary reddit they support her because she is a women, lots of experience (and no they dont see Bil as a failed president),senator, Secretary of state and good policy idea's.

    I do agree mostly with you, I mea being first lady really doesnt qualify you, senator she was no big deal and mainly voted for the wrong issues and her SOS position was far from succesfull.

    Oh and I think sh already dropped ttp, but you would have to check because thats always open for change.
     
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    At one time I was looking forward to voting for a Republican in this race, but they're really screwing the pooch with Trump and Cruz. If Cruz is the nominee I'll vote third party, but if Trump is the nom I will vote Hillary. Trump is a trainwreck of a candidate and would be an even bigger trainwreck of a president. It's such a shame because this was a very winnable election for Republicans before Cruz and Trump were the front runners.
     
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    I would never support someone who I know uses her office to sell out my interest to foreign powers for personal gain. Hillary has no love for America or Americans.
     
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    You know she sells influence? She has a list of scandals a mile long? Don't you believe the list of women who accuse bill of asult? I would vote for anyone but Hillary. She'll tell you she dodged sniper fire with sin bad and you eat it up.
     
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    Lena Dunham. Remember her. She's a big Clinton fan.

    Bogus rape claim. She did make a great political ad for the Democrats that compared voting for Barack Obama as the same as getting (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. She was right.
     
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    True, she is for and against everything.
     
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    I was referring to the REAL satan , not you . :wink:
     

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