Guns are made for killing

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Let us assume for the moment that guns are indeed "made for killing".

    The 2nd amendment is there to ensure the law-abiding will always have access to firearms.
    To what purpose?
    So that they can kill other people, should it be necessary to do so.

    Gun are made for killing?
    Of course they are -- that's why they're protected by the 2nd.

    :woot:
     
  2. Regular Joe

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    So what's the point of the post?
    In a big way, I think that guns serve the same purpose as "scream therapy". They keep us from killing. Yesterday, another forum member and I went out and "killed" some expired canned food. It's a lot like killing critters, without the death. You use the same guns and ammo. You deliberately aim and shoot the can. It "pops" with the same sound and effect of an animal. Some "need for killing" is satisfied, and you carry on.
    If we were not able to use our guns in that way, there may indeed be more real killing going on.
     
  3. TOG 6

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    To give those who argue against guns because they are "made for killing" nowhere to go with said argument.
     
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    Mr Saturday Night Special.
     
  5. democrack

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    Unless, of course, you hunt .
     
  6. DoctorWho

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    I understand the intent of the OP, just to bolster the original effort, many times, It is Quite unnecessary to shoot or harm an attacker.
     
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    Guns aren't made to kill. They're made to fire a projectile. Is anyone going to tell me that a 22lr is "made to kill" people? I mean, it can be done, but it's obviously not the point. And inherent in any such item is the additional (I would say co-existing) power to defend. Anything made to attack is made to defend.

    Sure, you need an army to attack another country. Try defending your country and maintaining sovereignty without one.
     
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    Since most guns are multipurpose, there only purpose is not killing, although they can be used to kill, and any object can be used to kill.
     
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    Yes Guns are made for killing, killing intruders and tyrannical governments.
     
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    One purpose is to give the one who wields it the capability to incapacitate (inflict injury or kill) bad people who are causing harm.
     
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    What are you hunting for? Your socks? If you're not going to use your gun to kill, what's the object in hunting?
     
  12. DoctorWho

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    Dunno, catch & release ?

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    I shot a sick jeep once, does that acrue any killing of tyrannical or despotic Government points ?
     
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    Clearly you have never seen a target rifle. Or a skeet gun.

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    Gathering food. Snares are used to. Are snares just make for killing?
     
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    Wow , talk about flipping the script . :eekeyes: Killing humans and hunting for food are not what is being tossed around . :confusion: So now the gun nuts don't want us to hunt for food ?:eekeyes: And your hands are for killing too even if you eat veggies , you have to rip them from the ground and kill them too !!:roll:
     
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    Our natural right to lethal self-defense is recognized in our founding documents.

    OOPS: Armed Robber Shot And Killed By His Victims In NC

    Arriving officers found a man suffering gunshot wound. Police said emergency workers took that man to Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center where he died.

    The preliminary investigation indicates that the male suspect was armed and approached the victims in attempt to commit a robbery. The victims were also armed during this encounter. During this encounter several shots were fired and the suspect was shot. No other persons were found to have been injured.

    It does not appear that the victims will face charges, but the investigation is still on-going at this time.

    In Leftwing Utopia they would.

    http://bearingarms.com/oops-armed-robber-shot-killed-victims-nc/
     
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    The left wing Anti Gun Clack feels morally supperior when the dead person is an unarmed murdered home owner.

    The left wing nutters call the murderer a victim of social inequality as the home owner flaunted his white privileges by having the audacity to work for and own a luxurious home in such bad economic times.
     
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    I've heard this argument and while it's not without merit it misses the point of the OP: the primary reason we retain the right to keep and bear arms is to kill other people if that becomes necessary. Not to target shoot. Not to hunt. Those are both purposes to which the gun can be put, and certain guns yes may be intended primarily for those purposes.
    And you are correct, a gun is to fire a projectile. But the analysis doesn't stop there. Why would I want to do that? What would the most important purpose I could put it to, the one necessary to our system of ordered liberty? It's not hunting and it's not target shooting. It's poking high vel holes in other people and letting a piece of shrapnel spall around in their meat bag, for the purpose of causing severe injury likely to lead to swift death. Simplified version? Guns are made for killing and that's perfectly acceptable as a purpose for a tool and perfectly acceptable under a number of circumstances legal or moral.

    Defense: what do you do with the gun in defense? Apply deadly force or the threat of same. If threat was the primary purpose you wouldn't need to have bullets. Instead the primary purpose is actually shooting the projectile into someone (warning shots being dangerous to the general public and rightly illegal).

    It's all semantics I say. Guns kill people. Duh. Is that somehow wrong? Not at all. It's a tool it has no moral component.
     
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    Well the anti Gun Clack has tried to ban all guns because apparently in their myopic view, gun are only good for killing people.
     
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    I'm not sensing a point here. So what? They're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiots. We have a specifically enumerated right PROTECTED but not created by the constitution for the express purpose of killing people of that becomes necessary. They can whine all they want, the 2a was not about hunting.
     
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    Since killing existed long before guns, maybe there were invented as a way to avoiding getting killed.

    Killing is not going anywhere any time soon. There was a time when the biggest, strongest man could take your money, your wife, or your life and there was nothing you could do about it. You can get a bigger sword, but what good would that do?

    Guns took power from the bullies of the past and created equality. Even the smallest lady could choose not to be raped.

    These guns are made for killing
    That's just what they'll do
    If you try to harm my family
    I will use this one on you!
     
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    Yes, what he said!!!!
     
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    "
    These guns are made for killing
    That's just what they'll do
    If you try to harm my family
    I will use this one on you! "

    Sounds like that song by Nancy Sinatra;
    " These boots were made for walking."
     
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    Haven't heard the song but once you've made the reference I think that was his aim. Punny.
     
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    Not sure what the purpose of this post is.

    What issue is he seeking an opinion on?
     
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    I had a similar discussion on another forum with a gentleman from California. He felt that a good "thrashing" with his umbrella would eliminate the need for a gun against an intruder. Brave fella...:wink:
     

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