Most macho soldiers and warriors of all time?

Your thread title and poll question:

You are a caricature.

 

??? The Israelis are of today. Not all time

 

Too bad the OP never bothered to look up the term "macho" before he started this thread.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/macho

ISIS fits that definition.

The OP poll is meaningless because "macho" is not a valid criteria for comparison.

Ruthless, efficient, effective, tactical, strategic or even just bloodthirsty would be better ways to measure warriors IMO.

But what makes a complete and utter mockery of the poll is the inclusion of the AB.

Seriously?

They are criminals, not warriors.

You are comparing apples and oranges and ending up with fruit salad.

You need a poll of criminal gangs if you want to include the AB. They most certainly don't deserve to be on the same list as navy seals, vikings, etc.

 

You are the one talking about Jews. I imagine it happens a lot.
I mentioned your man crush the Aryan Brotherhood not being soldiers or warriors yet being on a poll you created about the best warriors/soldiers.

 

Warriors demonstrate those characteristics, and often criminals, of the definition you posted

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WTF? I am not racist just unbiased. They are macho whether you believe it or not. Let me throw in a prison pod with them and tell me they are not macho. They account for .1% of the prison population federally but 20% of the homicides

Like I said the Jews are macho, especially Sayert Matkal

 

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"The Expendables."

 

Someone has a problem understanding basic English.

 

No I don't. Your crazy man

 

It seems like you do. Try re-reading the thread again.

That is rich though. A neo-nazi sympathizer calling others crazy in a crazy stupid thread created by said neo-nazi.

 

But Im not a neo-nazi?

 

You don't have the macho to admit it?
Sympathizer it is then.

 

I wouldn't put an era on it. I would just say American soldiers in general have, and will always be the best soldiers.

 

Well from the list provided I voted for the Spartans, simply because the Battle of Thermopylae has been remembered for so long and I doubt there will ever be another legend to equal it.

 

Or MS 13, what most wannabe macho men do not seam to realise is a well organised platoon of any regular infantry could take on any of the street gang types.

 

They had good PR.

The Normans conquered parts of France, Italy, Britain, the Middle East and Byzantium. Always outnumbered and always good for spectacular deeds.

I can recommend this first hand account of their conquest of "Magna Graecia" and their fight with the Pope.

http://www.amazon.com/Deeds-Calabria-Sicily-Brother-Robert/dp/047211459X

It is quite expensive there but you might find it cheaper.

 

I voted Spartans for this poll.

But why in the hell is the Aryan Brotherhood or MS-13 put on a list with warriors when these 2 groups are a bunch of cowards who only prey on the weak?

 

Exactly!

Simply being macho does not make someone an effective warrior.

Professional wrestlers make a big deal about being macho but put them in the Africa and a 4'6" bushman will survive quite easily while the "macho" wrestler probably won't survive more than a couple of weeks at most.

Infantry soldiers understand that killing your enemy has nothing whatsoever to do with being "macho" and everything to do with tactics and intelligence. If they don't know where you are but you know where they are that means that you can take them down just by calling in an airstrike.

Criminals are selfish and disorganized. They end up in prison largely because they are stupid enough to be caught.

 

did the US win any battle they were not supposed to win (by going in with superior forces). I think greatest were the mongols. They always fought outnumbered and could not afford to take big losses but always won.

so none of the above.

 

That's a great guess, but incorrect. It's American Soldiers.

I hope this helped clear up your confusion. I'm sure whichever country you're from will one day strive to be so great. Best of luck.

 

but why? I havent seen the US army win anything it wasnt supposed to. In fact its lost a lot of stuff it wasnt supposed too.

I mean check sparta. At the end of the day they were one city state with limited resources so they had to fight a lot of battles uphill (thermophlae etc) whereas it seems most of the US battles are downhill.

 

If you haven't seen the US win any battles, then you obviously haven't FD. They are won everyday. However, the enemy doesn't raid with tactical forces like a conventional war. Therefore it's a surprise attack with 6 hajis firing from rocks, and the US still takes care of them.

Only a coward would think the US doesn't win anything. True coward.

 

Polish winged Hussars, they even beat Turks with guns on a horse with a lance.

 

SS

even israeli Krav Maga bases on SS-Combat techniques

 

I'd have to go with the Russians. They simply swallowed up Napoleon's French and Hitler's Germans despite inferior equipment and training while going through tremendous hardship.

 

Eh... Napoleons failing was his own and not Russian fighting prowess. While the Russians against the Germans did pretty well, they had all the advantages. More equipment, men, home territory and one front battle.
The Russians would not be on any serious top 10 list if you take the whole of history into account.