Scripture's use

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any portion of scripture is good for instruction, but not portion of scripture is good for conclusion.
    One should only draw conclusions from the full counsel of the Word of God.
     
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    Who is the Word of God?
     
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    Which God?
     
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    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    What makes you think that?
     
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    I don't believe in your Quran.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I, as a contingent being, do not believe in anything; however, there is much I am left to believe.
     
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    Show me the word of God and I will show you the word of man.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Show me the word of a character, and I'll show you the word of an author.

    Creatures are but characters with material being.
     
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    Your god is a character authored by men
     
  10. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps. But of this I'm certain, if contingent being actually exists, then necessary being must exist.

    I cannot, logically and honestly, deny that I actually exist. I must actually exist to make the denial.
    I cannot, logically and honestly, deny that I am subject to change. In fact, I am defined by my changes.
    Anything subject to change is subject. It is not-sovereign; it is not-necessary. It is contingent in its being.
    I cannot, logically and honestly, deny that, if contingent being exists, necessary being must exist.

    I'm just being honest. I'm not out to convert anyone. I'm just writing what I'm left to believe to date. I welcome new ideas. but to me,
    it's not so much that ideas are proved as it is that all of the other ideas have been, to my satisfaction, disproved. What remains is what I'm left to believe. Then, that's tested, and so on, and so on.

    I am left to believe in the God of the bible because I can find a necessary being, a sovereign God, in the bible. Many believers in the bible do not describe a sovereign God. Many Christians are left to believe that the God of the bible is subject to change in His Knowing, emoting and volition.

    To date, I am left to believe that the God of the bible uniquely fulfills the Omni-implications of a Necessary-being.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Necessary-being, but I don't think you really asked the question your words actually asked.
    It's my impression that what you intended to ask is why I'm left to believe what I'm left to believe.

    Your question asks for an efficient cause. It's my impression that you would either like to know the chronological sequence of ideas that have preceded my current position or the ontological sequence of ideas that support my current position.

    But again, in direct answer to your direct question, necessary-being.
     
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    This is special pleading
     
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    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    I'm not quite following this, but yeah, my question is epistemological.
     

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