good news trump nation :) initial pols

our career politicians believe increase in labor pool + decrease in available jobs = higher wages. Awesome economics

there was this game we had to play before for a class democracy 3 i thikn it was. Should be required playing for everyone.

 

All Hillary has to do is pull up a few of Trump's old interviews with Howard Stern and it will be ballgame over for Trump. Then all she has to do is pull up some of the interviews in New York when she was running for Senator and Trump was her biggest supporter (and donor). Game, set, match. Hillary's baggage??? Ha!!! I guarantee you she's just dying for the Donald to bring forth one of her old girlfriends from college.

 

Everything that can be said about Hillary has already been said 1000 times by Democrats and Republicans alike. Trump's got nuthin' new. But she's got plenty.

 

You keep saying that but you can't prove it where it counts We have the breakdown of female support in the three states polled: Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio. The figures are not even close to 73%. So, as the adage goes, put up or shut up.

 

So if smart people analyse and match up the baggage from each - do you really think that Hillary stands a chance? I mean come on! She's got so many skeletons in her closet most people have lost track. All Trump has to do is refresh people's minds. Not too hard if you ask me...and Trump's very good at it. Now if you are basing your argument on the typical uneducated/low information liberal...well then I kind of get where you're coming from. But I don't see them getting out to vote - too much of a chore for them. So IMHO Trump's gonna make Hillary wish she never tried running for the Presidency a second time.

 

Polls are useless right now.

If I see those numbers at the end of October, I might give a freak.

But, if it makes people (like the Trumpies) feel better about a campaign that is inevitably doomed, I have no objections to the delusional having their moment of glory.

 

When I see a Hillary rally that can match the volume as well as enthusiasm I might think you had somewhat of a legitimate point. But ahh No.

 

That's true... kind of... The public's attention span is quite short though and she's been sneaking under the radar during the last year due to the media's 24/7 focus on Trump and her lovefest with Bernie... Now all her failures, lies, corruption, bad judgment, disastrous policies, unpleasant personal characters will be brought back to light and will remain on display 24/7 for the next 6 months, reminding the people why they hated her in the first place. She is going down.

 

These are national polls. It is called the unfavorables

 

Electoral votes "trump" all. Unfavorables in the 3 states I mentioned were as high or higher for Hillary. But you go on and keep your head in the sand. Your ilk keeps spouting your anti-white nonsense and her unfavorables will keep climbing.

 

Anti white? Hilarious. You do understand that Trump could get almost all of the white male vote and STILL lose. LOL

 

Personally, I detest Trump because he's a self centered idiot who only knows how to talk big. But I recognize that there are a great many people who don't mind those qualities at all, or even admire him for them. I don't get it, but there are all kinds of things about people I don't get. So I try hard not to confuse my personal feelings with how people are going to vote. I'd suggest you try the same. If you can't stand Hillary for whatever reason, that's your privilege. But I think you'll be disappointed if you assume that everyone else will have the same reaction you do.

My my, seems I touched a nerve.

You're right, I don't know you. I only know what you post here. And when you post, "The creepy thing is... [that] Hillary's supporters don't care that's she's a proven... lesbian," that makes you a bigot. And before you go hollering to the mods I'd remind you that overt homophobia is also a reportable offense. I typically don't report such things because I feel that derision is a far more effective response to such barbarism than deleting the post.

And when you start posting baseless accusations about how Obama's out to get you, the assumption is that you're a racist. Just like how the assumption would be that you're an anti-Semite if you started posting about how the Jews control the media and destroy anyone who speaks out against them. If you post crap like that you're gonna get called on it. Now if you want to try to make an actual argument that Obama really is out to get you, be my guest, go right ahead. Just remember to include sources, citations, and actual evidence. And citing the likes of Breitbart or CNS News will earn you the most excoriating mockery I can come up with. Please. be my guest, I'll have fun tearing apart your paranoid conspiracy theories.

The question was how Trump fairs among women voters. Trying to run from the question by suddenly changing the subject to the electoral college is a pretty pathetic attempt at a doge.

So you consider observing that white males are a minority in the US and cannot exercise a veto over national policy to be anti-white nonsense? You do realize the clear implication of that statement would be to suggest that you think that only white males should be allowed to vote?

 

I seriously suggest that career politicians know how to rely on experts and digest their recommendations along with the many other issues they need to keep in balance. Do you seriously suggest that Trump learned anything about governing a diverse citizenry from his MBA? He's good at business - and by "good" I mean profitable, certainly not ethical or good for the public. Being a good businessman does not a political leader make.

Your own poor understanding of macroeconomics is why you think the $20T debt is such a concern. Didn't you hear Trump himself say we should borrow even more money, while it's so cheap to borrow, to invest in our infrastructure? Then he says we don't have to make good on our debts, and other idiotic things that highlight what a fool he is.

 

Right. The quotes and the link below certainly confirm your theory about career politicians and the expert advise they rely on..... Lest we forget the $20 trillion dollar debt that the shrinking, disappearing, squeezed from every direction middle class will end up paying off sooner or later.


America’s Shrinking Middle Class:

The middle class lost ground in nearly nine-in-ten U.S. metropolitan areas examined

From 2000 to 2014 the share of adults living in middle-income households fell in 203 of the 229 U.S. metropolitan areas

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016...se-look-at-changes-within-metropolitan-areas/


Thanks but no thanks pal. Time to get a successful MBA businessman to fix the damage done by your beloved career politicians and their ingenious experts.

 

Right.... Too bad your beloved politicians and their amazingly clever experts borrowed $20 trillion and DID NOT invest in our infrastructure, they squandered the money, distributed them between themselves and their corporate masters and stuck the American people with the bill. Let's give them career politicians four more years to finish what they started.

DUH

 

Actually, if you read your history, the $20 trillion has been accumulating since 1835. It includes debt incurred to fight the Civil War, build the transcontinental railroads, fight two world wars, dig the world out of the Great Depression, defeat the Nazis and the Soviets, go to Luna, build the interstate highways, split the atom, build the nation's airports and air traffic control system, build the Panama Canal, and so on and so on and so on. So yeah, a big chunk of it has been used to build our infrastructure. More recently the Recovery Act was roughly 37% tax breaks, 18% aid to state and local governments, and 45% infrastructure, science, energy, education, unemployment benefits, and so forth. Which you might know already if you listened to news sources that don't routinely lie and make crap up to rationalize hating a black President.

If you want to see more infrastructure spending, it would help if you didn't elect people to Congress who think that government spending of any kind if by definition evil. Or that anything that Obama supports must also automatically be evil, up to and including just paying the government's bills. If you want to see the economy improve, it would help if you didn't elect people to Congress who want to drastically cut spending in the middle of a recession.

As for the middle class, the GOP has spent the last 40 years eviscerating unions, removing labor protections, cutting taxes on the rich, and slashing spending on things like education that are essential to a healthy middle class. What did you think was going to happen?

 

"Brevity is the soul of wit" ...... you need wit.

Hey, that transcontinental RR sure was expensive ! Meanwhile, half that $20T accumulated in the last 7 years. You forget to mention that.

And OBTW, when Eisenhower was building those highways, he actually LOWERED the national debt two years.

He was the last POTUS to do so. Not even Bill Clinton ever ran a true surplus. Look it up. The debt never went down under Clinton, although he had a couple very good years regardless, thanks to a GOP House and the dot.com boom.

 

Oh dear. The skyrocketing accumulation of debt, the decay of the insfrastruction, the evisceration of the unions, the devastation of the middle class, the loss of millions of american jobs - it was all happening during 8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Obama administration, just like it was hapenning during 8 years of the GWB administration. It's beyond idiotic to blame one party when the other has spent twice as much time in the white house, is fully owned by the same corporate masters and is absolutely as complicit in the situation existing in the country.

Get real.

 

No, what is truly pathetic, is involving yourself in the middle of a discussion and getting your facts wrong. If you follow my posts, I presented the facts on why the claim that 73% of women hate Trump is wrong and irrelevant. Polls this week in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania disprove the 73% figure. He didn't like that fact, so he claimed only national polls count. My reply inferred that one can win the national vote and still lose in the electoral college. Sorry you lack the brain to understand that and have to resort to name calling. And yes, to constantly imply that only White males will vote for Trump is racist, sexist, xenophobic and extremely ignorant. Now go away.

 

if they did we wouldnt be in this mess =_______=

Theres also the fact that while globalization and interventionism has failed in the past if you surround yourself with advisers who push the same thing then you are going to get predictable recommendations.

One thing I love about the trump candidacy though is it presents a clear choice. With the dems and gop its always been corporate globalism version 1 or version 2? Do you want one that is a little bit more interventionist or less? Do you want one that will offer amnesty right away or wait for a year? How big a corporate tax cut do you want? The difference is so small that its not really a choice.

I like that Trump presents a clear choice. More globalism or pull the scale back towards nationalism. More free trade or rework the agreements?

People say that these 2 are the worst choices for president we can get and that the system sucks for producing them. I disagree. This is the most diverse and profound choice on the direction of the country Americans have had since.... im not sure. Maybe since forever.

 

Wow, you think he graduated business school without learning macro?

If you had ever taken an economics class...

you would know macro is the very first, most basic class.

you would know artificially low labor costs (which occur, for example, when a wage floor is enforced among consumers but not among the laborers) and competition drive the prices of those goods to an artificially low amount, and by definition, lower prices equate to a higher living standard.

you would expect any importing budget to be financed by proceeds of exporting, making such a deficit impossible to explain or justify ethically.

you would not complain about a stat being "doubled" for hyperbole when that stat is nearly 100,000 times what it was 30 years ago when the madness began.

your self esteem would he much higher.

you could amuse yourself with political discussion without demanding your opposition be racist.

It's not too late to take an economics class. You need rigorous and repetitive exposure to the inner workings of supply and demand in order to grasp the concepts. You should be ashamed to say such an uninformed statement as, "Apples and oranges. Just because labor standards and living standards are both standards doesn't make them the same thing." But you lack the education to understand why that is such a ridiculous thing to say. In the same post where you accuse others of not understanding macro no less!

It is a shame that the public schools put this little focus into teaching students economics. Why do I have to deal with this crap? Why is this poster released into the world with almost zero relevant information about economics? Bet he knows all about useless biology and cosmology. It is a shame that you are mocking others for your perceived intellectual superiority, when you know absolutely nothing about the subject matter other than believing that your opinion matters somehow in spite of that.

Get educated.

 

[video=youtube_share;34Y7cA8w6Hk]http://youtu.be/34Y7cA8w6Hk[/video]

 

I have six more with Clinton in a substantial lead. Hilarious!

 

Post them now.

No RCP, because they only update their polls every week or so, and they haven't yet.

C'mon, chop chop

 

That is pretty hilarious.