Best soldiers of WWII?

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Best Soldiers of WWII?

Poll closed Jun 19, 2016.
  1. US Marines

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  2. 1st US infantry

    2 vote(s)
    4.8%
  3. 82nd Airborne

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  4. 101st Airborne

    2 vote(s)
    4.8%
  5. A Team German Army units

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  6. Waffen SS (Germanic)

    13 vote(s)
    31.0%
  7. Russian Guards/Shock units

    5 vote(s)
    11.9%
  8. Japanse Army

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  9. British Army

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  10. Other

    9 vote(s)
    21.4%
  1. Armed Update

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    SAS or Devil's Brigade.

    When people say "Waffen SS" you mean LSSAH, Das Reich, Totenkopf, units. Many other units were just foreign conscripts and professional Nazi mobs.
     
  2. Sundance

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    Germany was incapable of "finishing off" England, due to the brilliance of the RAF, and the fact England is an island.

    I don't ever see America making peace with Japan, considering we were attacked, either.

    I also think the most important battle in WW2 was the Battle of Britain.

    You seem to ave a decent grasp of WW2 history, but we disagree on the outcomes.
     
  3. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The U.S. Army units who fought in Europe have my respect. But I'll give it to the U.S. Marines for their actions in the Pacific. :salute: :flagus:
     
  4. The Great Zeus

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    The only reason Germany was incapable of "finishing off" England, was because the United States joined the fight. I'm not saying the RAF wasn't damn good, but they'd be speaking German in England today if it wasn't for the U.S. coming to their rescue.
     
  5. Sundance

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    Not a chance.

    Hitler completely gave up on trying to take England, before the US even got in the fight.

    His whole focus was on Russia after he gave up on England. He knew Churchill hated Stalin, and wouldn't help Russia very much.

    England would have only been truly threatened had Hitler conquered all of the European mainland, including Russia.
     
  6. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at this video... Germany could have beaten the British, if Hitler had wanted to, but he didn't want war with England and he made numerous peace offers.

    http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-6-battle-of-britain/
     
  7. Sundance

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    Hitler did highly respect the English, but he could have never beat the RAF.

    Had he taken Russia, he would have used a war of slow attrition on England with Naval blockades and submarine attacks on supply ships.

    That was the only way he could beat England.

    Of course, the US would have prevented that.


    Battle of Britain

    544 RAF command pilots died

    2,500 Luftwaffe aircrew were killed


    Due to the failure of the Luftwaffe to establish air supremacy, a conference assembled on 14 September at Hitler's headquarters. Hitler concluded that air superiority had not yet been established and "promised to review the situation on 17 September for possible landings on 27 September or 8 October. Three days later, when the evidence was clear that the German Air Force had greatly exaggerated the extent of their successes against the RAF, Hitler postponed Operation Sea Lion indefinitely."[267]

    Operation Sea Lion was the invasion of England

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-four-month-war-over-uks-skies-10380910.html




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  8. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    The Finn Ski troops were the most effective.
     
  9. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some years ago I read a nice book written by a British Air Force helper. She tells of many foreign pilots coming to help fly against Germany. She actually fell in love with a Canadian.
    Here is her book:
    http://www.canadianwarbrides.com/book-our-mornings.asp

    Decades later, talking to a Canadian bomber pilot, I call him the Berlin Bomber, he said, he had no regrets.
    The Germans were portrayed as evil then, and to this day they are still labelled:

    "August 22, 2010

    The Third Reich, 1933-1945, was arguably the most heinous regime in history. Comprised of some equally malevolent characters, this administration was responsible for initiating the biggest and most costly war mankind has ever known, and perpetrated one of the worlds biggest acts of genocide, in what is now referred to as the Holocaust. This list could have been bigger but I settled on these 15 (mostly) NSDAP members."

    http://listverse.com/2010/08/22/top-15-most-evil-nazis/

    Nothing but lies and more lies! I'm not sure who is more evil, the Germans or the Muslims?

    Interesting article: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080224095412AA8UUiv

    Anyway, for me the Waffen SS were the best soldiers!:heart:
     
  10. Sundance

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    The German military was definitely a force to be reckoned with. They just weren't as good as the English and the Americans.

    Had they just went after the Soviet Union, and left the Jews alone, they could have been a force for good.

    And, Muslims are far more evil than Germans.
     
  11. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But they are both evil in your mind, aren't they?
     
  12. Sundance

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    No, just Muslims.
     
  13. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? What have they done?
     
  14. Germania

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    I posted Germanic SS because the others were mostly D-B troops with ideological trainning and and the name SS attached.

    The Germanic SS units were far better and more selective.Your right there's many misconceptions about them
     
  15. Germania

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    It was not the Battle of Britain. No single battle was decisive to the outcome of WWII. If they had lost it, they still may of fended off a German invasion. Even if Germany took out the UK, they still had a decent chance of losing against the USSR and the US at a latter point. The manpower and losses on both sides were easily replaceable.
     
  16. Sundance

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    England did win the Battle of Britain

    Which stopped Hitler from ever being able to invade England

    Hence, the most important battle in WW2

    If the Germans could have fought Russia only, they would have beat them.

    Stalin was the worst commander in WW2.
     
  17. Germania

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    Not likely. They would of most likely of fended them off. Also Germany did not have the naval power at the time to do an invasion, so even if they had won the Battle of Britain, which was fought for the reason of a future invasion, they very well could of lost a costly invasion. Hence, Sea Lion was cancelled.

    When historians speak of a potential German invasion, they bring up they would of had to of won the Battle of Britain, which they didn't, and of had the ships/supplies capable of doing it.
     
  18. Sundance

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    Okay, now I'm completely agreeing with you.
     
  19. Germania

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    I edited my post I made a slight mistake which muddled my post.

    While you may be right, the US may of set up a joint Soviet-US command (Not too implausible given that America was left under Roosevelt), altering history. The Battles of Stalingrad, Moscow and Kursk were more decisive. Imagine a much bigger power and army being knocked out, then Hitler litterally could of invaded the US easier and certainly the UK, starving them slowly.
     
  20. RUS

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    If England, France and Poland ...... 2 September 1939,..... together attacked to Germany (attacked really ..like a real soldier ) .... the Second World War would have ended in October 1939.

    Hence, the most important battle in WW2,...it was - the battle for Poland in September 1939.

    Logically?:wink:

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  21. Germania

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    It was the most introductory but not most important. The casualties were low.
     
  22. Bluespade

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    The victors had the best soldiers.:rolleyes:
     
  23. Germania

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    No. This is illogical.
     
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    1. Gurkhas
    2. The Scots.
     
  25. Jazz

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    Correction... they had the most soldiers!!
     

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