Israel's Impoverished Holocaust Survivors: Tens Of Thousands Rot In Poverty

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  1. janpor

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    Haifa's Helping Hand: Retirement Home Supports Impoverished Holocaust Survivors

    Meanwhile Israel is spening enormous amounts to secure illegal Jewish settlements (sometimes of less than 100 people in the middle of Palastinian territory).

    Good riddiance!

    The extreme-right in Israel -- also known as Conservatives (= neo-fascists) -- doesn't have her priorities set straight as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    Haifa's Helping Hand: Retirement Home Supports Impoverished Holocaust Survivors

     
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    Sad.... Why spend money recruiting immigrants instead of helping the elderly?
     
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    Because Israel is a rogue fascist state.
     
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    Instead of feeling for these old people, you abuse the story to make a political point. Old people living in poverty - that is the point. Especially those who have sufferred as the woman in the story has. She has found a home in Israel and yet this topic becomes about settlers. Go figure!:puke:
     
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    Ms. Liebe,...

    You got it very wrong indeed -- I'm asking very profound questions: Holocaust survivors are rotting in poverty by the tens of thousands with the State offering little to no assistance to these people that helped built (!) Israel, literally. While instead, the extreme-right/neo-fascists in Israel -- which is in government -- are spending enormous amounts of money on the security of a dozen of settlers in illegal settlements, deep into Palestenian land, when judged by the highest standard possible: International Law.

    Sorry, but an utter failure of understanding the bigger picture on your part Ms. Liebe.

    Kind regards,

    Jan.
     
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    and the proof of the money being spent are the protests from the civilians about the cost of living in the west bank


    So i can find the claim to have merit.

    Israel Protests: 270,000 Demonstrate Against Rising Cost Of Living

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/06/israel-protests_n_920274.html
     
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    Israel has been getting reparations for the Holocaust for 60 years.. Don't you expect the elderly Israelis to be cared for properly?

    Why aren't they a line item at the TOP of the budget?
     
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    "Good riddiance" to what?

    And its not like every Holocaust survivor is living in luxury here in the States.
     
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    Granny says, "Heck - if dey was to dig out back, dey liable to come across Uncle Ferd's thunder mug from when he was a baby...
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    Holocaust museum recovers thousands of items belonging to Auschwitz victims
    June 9, 2016 -- Thousands of missing personal items belonging to Holocaust victims who died at the Nazi death camp Auschwitz were discovered at the Polish Academy of Sciences in Warsaw.
    See also:

    Ancient coin collector's stash found tucked in wall in Israel
    June 8, 2016 -- Excavators in Israel uncovered a cache of 16 rare silver coins dating to the first century B.C. at an archaeological site, providing evidence of what may be an ancient coin collection. The Israel Antiquities Authority said the coins were each minted between 135 B.C. and 126 B.C.
    Related:

    Handwritten ancient Roman letters found in London archaeological dig
    June 1, 2016 -- Hundreds of waxed writing tablets, dating back to around A.D. 43, have been found during an archaeological dig in London.
     
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    No doubt -by looking at the picture- they live far better than the Arabs they ethnic cleansed by either have thieved their land, helped out with the ethnic cleansing or supported the fascist governments who ethnic cleansed them in their name. Rather disgusting them war criminals / supporter of war criminals demand special treatment by playing their holocaust card again.
     
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    Evidence that the settlements in the disputed territory are state funded?
     
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    Rather interesting statement considering that the Palestinian population in the disputed territories has grown exponentially since Israel took it back in 1967, wouldn't that be the antithesis of ethnic cleansing?
     
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    I can't understand something. From what I gathered Germany has given about 80 billion to Israel in reparations since the 1950's for the holocaust, which in todays value would be almost a half a trillion, where did that money go if not to the survivors? Shouldn't it have gone to them?
     
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    most of the reperations was in materials and machinery, not money
     
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    Rather dumb statement you make, thinking ethnic cleansing = genocide.
     
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    Thank you for posting this, Jan.

    Is there an update 5 years on?
     
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    Israel gets reparations, US foreign aid and a great deal of charity.. Why aren't these elderly Jews provided for?
     
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    It, also, means the mass deportation of an ethnic group which again is idiotic considering that the Arab population is increasing not decreasing both in Israel proper and the disputed territories.
     
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    You can perfectly fine ethnic cleanse Arabs out of one spot in the West Bank so they move to an other spot in the WB and so it will not have any effect on the total population. Hence you made a rather dumb statement.
     
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    I do not see any difference between a poor elderly who is a Holocaust survivor or one that was a refugee from an Muslim state, or one who ws born in Israel.
    All of them need to get some help from the Gov. and they do get some.
    For example all of them get medical insurance, this is something the poor in the US do not get.
    All of them get some cash from social security. Not enough for sure, but something they do get.
    Still poverty is an issue and it needs to be better addressed by the state, not just of the old people, but also of young and of children.
     
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    The original thread was started ironically by people who do not think Israel should have been created to provide haven for Jewish holocaust survivors.

    This thread still attracts anti semites and anti Israelis like flues to cow dung

    It is true holocaust survivors in Israel face hardships including poverty. Its a shame that issue is exploited as a pretext to (*)(*)(*)(*) on Israel and not because of genuine concern for the holocaust survivors.

    Here is info on the holocaust survivors as to the kinds of benefits they get:

    http://knesset.gov.il/mmm/data/pdf/me03361.pdf

    Here's a rebuttal of how the issue is used to (*)(*)(*)(*) on Israel:

    http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=69&x_article=2230


    Here's an article critical of the treatment of holocaust survivors in Israel done in a way
    that is not used to (*)(*)(*)(*) on the state for existing as a Jewish state but is very critical of the shortcomings of
    the state with its holocaust survivors:

    http://www.whyisrael.org/2015/04/18/holocaust-survivors-in-israel-living-symbols-of-poverty/

    As much as holocaust survivors face very real hardships in Israel see this article:

    http://motl.org/together-with-kin-hundreds-share-their-stories-about-shoah/

    Here's the most recent story I can find with the Israeli government acknowledging their failures and
    explaining what they are trying to do:

    https://agasiorowski.wordpress.com/...rs-didnt-receive-nis-400-million-in-benefits/

    I only responded because I loath holocaust survivors being used by anti Israelis as a pretext to (*)(*)(*)(*) on Israel and resurrect such threads by the latestanti Israeli urinators on this forum.
     

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