Florida nightclub shooting: 50 killed and 53 injured in 'act of terror'

And it basically says.... people having guns or not is not making a difference in reality.

 

The source uses data from the FBI, so please stop lying already.
While do note... YOU made the claim with nothing to back it up.

 

It's already well known. Has been exposed through many different media sources already.

 

My defence of radical murderous Islam? Right. Spare me the melodrama polyanna response. I witnessed people die in a terrorist attack because of radical murderous Muslims.

You ever put body parts in a bag? Hmmm. You want to presume to tell me who I apologize for?

You want to lecture me on Muslims?

I have more reason then you ever will to hate Muslims and I won't precisely because that is what radical terrorist Muslims.

Don't presume you know me. I have seen death and it makes me someone who loaths guns and hatred, war, violence to anyone, Muslim, gay or otherwise.. The hatred you spew about Muslims is no different then that mentally ill moron had for gays-the exact same hatred. Hating Muslims is not the issue easy-access to assault rifles was.

Look around your damn country as you scapegoat Muslims now. You think only people who are radical Muslims use guns to kill in the USA. Give it a rest. Give it a phacking rest. Week after week your children die in schools, innocent people are gunned down in houses of worship, you want to blame that all on radical Islam-pathetic. What a pathetic attempt to deny what ails your nation.

What You want to tell me homophobia is an exclusive phenomena of Muslims or do you want to get real and understand in all religions are people who use their religion to justify condemning and hating gays and others. Give me a Gawd damn break from your inflexible mind that needs to blame an entire people because you can't differentiate and understand right from wrong, good from bad, innocent from maniac.

Go on stand up and cheer people who hate Muslims. That will undo the shooting. That will make your country peaceful. What next you going to go door to door hunting Muslims down? Right.

What do you propose, people like you purchasing assault rifles and going after Muslims? How about me when I defend them-you want to shoot me? Do I sound like your hatred scares me? You are no different than the very Islamic radicals you think you hate. You use the same rigid, stunted, retarded violent stereotyping. No more no less.

Innocent, American Muslims no more condone attacks on gays than anyone else. Give it a rest with your stereotypes unless you want me to give you countless examples of Christian anti gay bigots. My religion, Judaism has no shortage of such people either quoting the Bible like certain Christians or Muslims with their Koran to justify hating gays. Its not exclusive to Muslims. Homophobia what you going to tell me you don't hate gays? Lol. What you only hate Muslims. Your stereotyping only appplies to Muslims? Yah right. Some of your best friends are black Jewish lesbians. Got it.

Here me loud and clear-I respect the right of Americans. I support your country. I think people like you though make your country weak.

I know damn good men in your armed forces and police. They would die defending Muslim citizens. It has nothing to do with the religion of Islam and everything to do with their defending a political system that protects the religious rights of each citizen. You just can't get that. Yesterday police officers and emergency responders without proper gloves as well as citizens, exposed themselves to blood that could have aids-they were saving lives.

Straight people lined up to give blood of all religions and colours.

That is what America is about, not you.

Its about gay people who will not cower, and straight people like me all over the world that will stand with Muslims and Christians and gays and atheists and every damn people there are in solidarity and refuse to lower ourselves to where you now wallow egged on by Donald Trump.


This I know-Muslims. Sorry I won't hate them because you are too rigid in your thought processes to differentiate peaceful ones from violent ones.

Who you fooling. This is just a pretense for you to spew hatred.

Blaming all Muslims is no different than the hatred that went into that deranged idiot's head who targeted gays-of course you don't get it.

Put your body where your mouth is brave one. Go join the army and learn respect for a gun.

 

Let's hear the argument why any citizen in the US needs an assault rifle with ammunition that pierces body armor.

Please enlighten me.

 

Oh is it? You claim something about mass killings, got nothing to back it up. I source you're wrong. You than claim the source takes into account 1 kill. I quote it's 4. You whine the source aint no good. While it's from the freaking FBI itself. Now you claim it's been "exposed" but still don't source a thing.

You're really full of it. Do go on... it's funny.
lol

 

Armor piercing ammo is illegal. Your statement is a fallisity.

Not all body armor is created equally. Level II isn't going to stop everything level IV will stop.

Also. An assault rifle is a rifle that fires an intermediatly powered round (more powerful than a pistol but less than a battle rifle) AND is select fire and is already illegal without a class III license.

So your questionis doubly false.

 

This is about Islamic Jihadism it doesn't matter what his tool was to kill these people whether a bomb, a train derailment, or an airplane into the side of a skyscraper, what matters is that these people are here and they want nothing more in life than to die killing non-Muslims and non-Sunni Muslims, you can ban all the guns you want but Islamic extremists are going to find a way to kill in mass regardless.

 

I completely agree. Terrorism and mass murders are completely different problems than those associated with ordinary people having or not having guns to deal with various matters in their daily lives.

 

Going by the news today, the attack now seems to have been carried out not by a "Muslim" but by someone with a mental health issue. It has been reported that Omar Mateen was a regular at this club - that may explain how he got in with two weapons - perhaps the bouncers already knew him. Was he struggling with his sexuality and his religious beliefs? Did a man turn him down on a previous visit?

 

It is also being reported that the shooter posted on a gay dating site. Not exactly the devout Muslim some would wish for in order to support their narrative...

 

Do you have any actual evidence?

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So waiting for actual facts is supporting Islam?

 

Generally speaking people planning an attack will study their targets. They go to these places before hand get a lay of the land so to speak and plan accordingly.

 

I can't see how posting himself on a gay dating site would have helped with any "plan" to shoot up a gay nightclub.

It is being relayed that he was seen a number of times at this club, drinking at the bar.

How many visits do you suppose it would take to "get a lay of the land"?

 

No, it does. Inquisition had something to do with Cristianity and Radical Islam has something to do with Islam.

 

Don't know. I reckon enough times to be known by security so he could smuggle in a rifle, extra mags and what not without being checked.

 

He consciously refuses to see any problem in this world other than underregulation and climate change. And by the way he wants to fight climate change by increasing and restricting regulations.

 

In my younger years I was a regular at quite a few nightclubs. Not once did that ever prevent me from going through security.

And, FYI, an AR-15 is a bit too large to stuff down the front of your pants. I think we will find that the security at the front of the club was first to die...

 

Odd that you seem to think being a muslim and having mental health issue are somehow, mutually exclusive. He can be both.

 

Does the narrative require a devout muslim? I think it shows that Islam can motivate even a marginal muslim to mass slaughter of unbelievers. Many muslims believe that to die fighting in Allahs cause absolves one of all past sins and guarantees their ticket to paradise. He probably saw death as a martyr as his only path to heaven.

 

Yea, he also drank alcohol and had or attempted to have homesexual affairs with other club members, you know, just so that his disguise is perfect...

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Wow, what an intelligent observation by you!

 

I'm not saying that was the case. Just that it's a possible explanation.

It's also entirely possible that he was gay. But because of his relationship with radical Islam he felt guilty about who he was and looked to redeem himself in the eyes of his God by going out killing as many of them as he could.

 

Having already been supplied with "actual facts" and disputing them is supporting Islam and ISIS. Even the media has supplied the facts and if you are truthful to yourself you know it.

 

My thoughts exactly

 

the news says unconfirmed

do you have any source from Interpol, the Department of State, the UN, or anyone else who actually has concrete PROOF, not just innuendo to confirm that idea???