Trump: Muslims not assimilating

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  1. Phoebe Bump

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    Thanks for that. I just flashed coffee all over my shirt.
     
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    Yeah, a progressive mocking Right Wingers, and apparently the difference is negligible. Good times!
     
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    So far your argument is that extremism is common on parts of the world which may or may not be associated with Islam, so any correlation is simply a coincidence. Assuming that's true, then the solution is still the one that Trump proposed: Don't allow immigration from "extremist" portions of the world.



    Again, what's the basis of saying that Muslims assimilate at a high rate? Your study which would have looked at Nidal Hasan, Omar Mateen, or Syed Farook for that matter, and would have found them all highly assimilated by their standards?

    I get it, I didn't expect you to understand my points and that's OK, I just wanted to get my position out there. But I just want to note the irony that the people who praise notions such as "diversity" and "multiculturalism" the most seem to understand it the least. "There is no necessary conflict between mosques and gay dance clubs." Definitely a quote of the week!
     
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    So fear fear fear and then an accusation thrown in at then end.. Flamebait.. denied.

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    Nice way of saying Trolling thanks for your honesty..
     
  5. JGG

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    Not trolling. Satire. Now Saturday Night Live. That's trolling.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sounds like Trump is a liar and trying to inflame anti-Muslim bigotry.

    will he be happy when his words lead to a few lynchings?
     
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    RonnieFan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People often wonder about the twisted thoughts located deep inside the sick Liberal brain. Some professionals say that the history of the Democratic Party will leave scars on many a lifelong Democrat.
     
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    Actually, I'm not all that "liberal" and not a Democrat by any stretch of the imagination.
     
  9. Fred C Dobbs

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    In fact that's not what you were "just saying". What you were "just saying" is there for everyone to see. Seems you've now doubled down.
    Bill O'Reilly has said something like that? Do you have a link?

    It's more leftist 'humor' designed for the adolescent mind. Everyone gets that.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we cannot have a President that lies and baits like this.

    Maybe Trump WANTS Hillary to win.
     
  11. JGG

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    What was I saying?

    I like poker...

    I do!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY
     
  12. Ronstar

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    sounds like Trump wants an eventual Kristalnacht against Muslims.

    burn their stores and homes, round them up into detention centers, deport all of them.

    no trials, no evidence, no juries.

    this is what Trump seems to want
     
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    They'll leave scars on the entire American economy and culture, leaving the country's future success open to question.
     
  14. raytri

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    That's a possible solution, not necessarily "the" solution or the best solution. For instance, it would basically mean that if you're a refugee fleeing the extremists, you're screwed. I don't think we should put the extremists and their victims in the same basket. We should shoot the former and welcome the latter.

    You seem to think that showing that a couple of people who would have counted as "assimilated" later committed attacks invalidates the measure of assimilating. That's not how it works. As I said, there are always individual exceptions to a general rule. It does not make the general rule invalid.

    As an example, if there is a general conclusion that "people with college degrees earn more", you don't invalidate that with a couple of examples where college-educated people earn less.

    Your points are based on logical fallacies, as best I can tell. The fact that you think that belief in Islam is totally incompatible with tolerance of (or attendance at) gay dance clubs is one such fallacy. You are, as I said, insisting that all Muslims are fundamentalists. The vast majority of Christians are not fundamentalists. Why do you insist that Muslims must be?
     
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    The Republican platform of don't pay back debts in full, and print more money though...that's a good plan.
     
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    well they kinda dont assimilate.

    Lets see jews and muslims both have that no pork thingee yet only muslims demand that things be certified as halal while the jew makes sure himself that its not pork.

    One makes the culture work according to his will one works with what exists already in the culture
     
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    Sure, you're an Independent voter and a Libertarian.
     
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    where the (*)(*)(*)(*) does Trump get his evidence that most Muslim immigrants and Muslim Americans don't assimilate???

    where the (*)(*)(*)(*) does he get his info?

    same place where he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating 9-11 in Jersey City?
     
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    because they tend to explode more. besides we can see in brussels that muslims tend to form ghetto communities that can hide terrorists.
     
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    Well, yeah. :smile:
     
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    i would just send them all to germany. Merkel seems to want more anyway.
     
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    That explains Obama's presidency: Nearly double the national debt from 10 trillion to 19 trillion dollars in 7 years.
     
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    You were saying "We have extreme Right Wingers all over this forum, and they really only want to kill immigrants, gays, liberals, Muslims, Mexicans, and blacks".

    You were then asked to back it up. You haven't and you can't.
     
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    Yeah...you're not so much with the economic terminology, yes?

    Let's just say that not paying back our debts in full as they come, and printing money to pay off the debt, which is still the current Republican policy, will, and I'm really not being funny, completely cripple the economy, especially if used in tandem.
     

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