>>>> Donald Trump accused of raping 13-year-old in federal lawsuit

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How much was after. Appears to be a lot but hey, you appear to be excusing it so what's the problem?
     
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    Aren't you confusing Bill Clinton with Magic Johnson? Even if you aren't, does one man's adultery make another man's adultery OK? I've noticed a penchant to avoid logic in your posts in general. Oh, and I notice you just threw out the accusation with no documentation.

    Speaking to the others reading this post and in reference to the lawsuit against Trump, even if it's true that it has been filed, it means nothing. Anyone can file a civil law suit against almost any one for any reason. Just because a civil suit is filed doesn't mean it has merit. I am not a Trump supporter, but nevertheless, I don't want this story to be true.
     
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    Excusing Bill as some are makes one wonder what the problem is.
     
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    no clue, Hillary stuck by her husband threw thick and thin.... Trump just ordered a new mail order bride when he tired of the old one

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  5. Hoosier8

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    The enabler stayed where the power is but no wonder she didn't want to bake cookies.
     
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    A very convenient time for someone to come forward with such allegations. By all means investigate, but it's probably a load of rubbish.
     
  7. SpitShineTommy

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    Is there a point to all this deflecting? Bill isn't running for president.

    Conservatives have been attacking Bill's philandering for decades now, yet they are to willing to excuse the playboy lifestyle of Mein Trumpf. It's comical how full of it they are.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, the power hungry war monger enabler is.
     
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    No. "these guys" didn't.

    Loving the National Enquirer is a Trumpadore thing

    Such rubes.

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    What kind of weed are you smoking?
     
  10. SpitShineTommy

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    You're right, the circus clown who wants to kill the family members of ISIS while allowing half the world to arm itself with nukes is running.

    "Power hungry"? You think a narcissistic braggart like Trump is running for altruistic reasons? Haha.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's see, Obama did kill family members of ISIS and Hillary claims she will be Obama 2.0. Go figure.
     
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    My father and all my uncles fought in either Europe or in the Pacific. One lived thru D-Day, followed Patton around and then was killed in Germany after the surrender. Another uncle was killed in Okinawa. My brothers, my cousins and I all volunteered for service during the Vietnam War. My son volunteered for the Army after 9/11. It is in their memory that I support Trump over Hillary.
     
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    Sounds like my family during WWII. I volunteered during Vietnam and my daughter volunteered as a Marine during Afghanistan. Fortunately everyone survived. My uncle received a Silver Star during the Battle of the Bulge.
     
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    My father served in the North Atlantic on convoy escorts and my FIL was in north Africa and Italy.
     
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    As far as I am concerned it would utterly dishonor the courage of my father and his brothers to support a cowardly braggart with fascist leanings like Tr(oll)mp.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436808/donald-trump-fascism-he-or-isnt-he
     
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    You sound very confident about that. There was enough evidence to go to trial, you might not want to hold your breath just yet.


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    “You know, it really doesn't matter...as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
     
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    Bill Clinton was probably in the next room charming the pants off several 13-year olds.
     
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    When was that?

    Why would SHE have been under oath?
     
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    The witness to the rapes:

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    Broaddrick signed an affidavit during the Jones case.

    You didn't know that?
     
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    "... During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family's privacy be respected.

    These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.

    ...Specifically, I do not have any information to offer regarding a nonconsensual or unwelcome sexual advance by Mr. Clinton
    ....
    I have asked my attorney to advise Ms. Jones's counsel that there is no truth to the rumors they are pursuing and to provide her counsel with this sworn affidavit. Further affiant sayeth not."

    Jane Doe #5



    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htm
     
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    The judge could waive the statute of limitations.

    In fact, the New York (where the suit was filed) Statute of Limitations is rather complex; particularly concerning sexual assault on a minor.
     
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    Johnson letter to Bratton.pdf.


    BY OVERNIGHT FOR DELIVERY WEDNESDAY, MAY 25


    May 24,2016
    William Bratton, Jr. Commissioner
    New York Police Department
    One Police Plaza
    New York, NY 10038

    Dear Commissioner Bratton:
    I was violently raped by Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein in New York City, in related yet separate incidents, at age 13.

    Their sexual assaults against me and other minors, more than the rapes alone, occurred on multiple occasions at
    the residence of Mr. Epstein in Manhattan during June-September, 1994.
    The incidents are detailed in my claims filed April 26, 2016 in U.S. District Court in Riverside, California visible
    online here: Donald Trump Lawsuit. I had assistance from friends
    with that filing and in composing this letter.

    As you may know, Mr. Epstein has already plead guilty to criminal sexuality involving one or more minors. He
    had a federal hearing YESTERDAY in Florida on these matters:
    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/jeffrey-epstein-sweetheart-deal-lawsuit-subject-
    of/nrRGj/

    "'I..,,

    All of my factual claims in my federal lawsuit filing and herein are true and correct, including with regard to
    multiple threats to my life and to the lives of my loved ones from Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein. The address I
    used for the federal filing (6634 Desert Queen Avenue, Twenty-Nine Palms, California), therefore, was that of a
    recent rental home in which I lived, but not the place I am currently hiding from Mssrs. Trump and Epstein (for
    fear that they or their agents may seek to kill me).
    Besides Mssrs. Trump and Epstein, each of whom was witness in some way to the crimes of the other, there are
    other witnesses besides me who know of their wrongdoing. In my federal complaint, some are referred to as
    "Jane Doe," "Maria Doe" and "Tiffany Doe." Eyewitness Tiffany, at least, has assured me that she will testify as
    to the truth and factuality of my claims.
    Like other survivors of rape, sexual assault, child abuse or sex trafficking, I have tried to repress the memories,
    to heal and somehow move on. When Mr. Trump began to look like a serious contender for the Presidency late
    last year, however, I resolved that I must tell the truth about what he and Mr. Epstein did to me.
    Early this year, I met with plaintiffs' attorneys about my claims. They told me that I had a good civil case. Yet,
    because Mr. Epstein has well-known social ties to former President Bill Clinton and other powerful celebrities
    (look here: Outdoor Forums. ing u isitr .com/3108141/bill-clinton-a lleged ly-flew-o n-pedoph ile-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-jet-
    with-trafficked-girls-26-times/), I perceived that some of these lawyers wanted to stall my claims from being
    heard in court during 2016.
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    Now, probably because Mr. Trump has become "the presumptive nominee" ofthe Republican Party, it seems
    that many if not most GOP politicians and lawyers want nothing to do with exposing any ugly truth about Donald
    Trump before it's too late.
    That's the opinion offriends who believe my claims about what ~ssrs. Trump and Epstein did to me and other
    girls as young as 12; we have spoken to dozens of lawyers who, evidently for fear of Mr. Trump, the Clintons or
    Mr. Epstein, will not even look into anything I have said. Some have almost seemed to run away from me and
    what I know to be the facts. Others have been worse; one lawyer even breached his duties to me and evidently,
    passed confidential contact information on to Mr. Trump or his allies.
    Therefore, I filed my federal claims prose on April 26. The California judge, however, dismissed my complaint
    on a technicality because, if I understand correctly, I did not have sufficient funds to pay the filing fee. One nice
    attorney, contradicting prior attorneys, recently indicated that there is another problem with my civil claims
    apart from my inability as of April 26 to pay the filing fee.
    If she's correct, the federal and New York statutes of limitation protect Mssrs. Trump and Epstein from any civil
    damages for raping me and other children 22 years ago. She wrote us that "New York has no criminal statute of
    limitations for rape/criminal sexual act/ aggravated sexual conduct against a child. Accordingly, should Ms.
    Johnson desire to contact prosecutors about her allegations, she is free to do so. But with respect to a CIVIL
    lawsuit in New York for monetary damages against defendants alleged to have sexually assaulted the plaintiff,
    the statute of limitations has run."
    I have no good reason to doubt her, but I am still trying to find a civil attorney who knows for sure. Maybe she is
    correct, maybe the earlier attorneys are correct. It appears, however, that I may never receive any financial
    compensation from Mssrs. Trump or Epstein for what they did to me and stole from me: My innocence, my
    virginity, my happiness.
    If the civil statutes of limitations are up for child rape -I can't quite believe it's true, but it may be-- I can live
    with that. One way or another, my central concern is to expose the wrongdoing of Mssrs. Trump and Epstein
    and see justice done in courts of law (whether criminal, civil or both) and to be sure that our nation knows all
    about Mr. Trump before electing such an evil man to the world's most powerful office.
    He and his people will surely say that I am a lying gold-digger or a bimbo. Yet, it wasn't even my idea to ask for
    $100,000,000 in damages in my April 26 filing; a friend simply thought that that might help law enforcement
    people like you and others take more notice of what an indigent 35-year-old woman was saying about two
    powerful, evil men.
    Even were Mr. Trump penitent about what he did to me so violently and criminally 22 years ago, for the same
    National Security principles discussed here (McCarthy's Alleged Affair Matters When He'd Be 2nd in Line + the Press Created a False Narrative
    Affair-is-Relevant-When-He-d-Be-2nd-in-Line-for-the-Presidency), no person with history like Mr. Trump's
    should be allowed to enter office with such shameful secrets unexposed. Whatever is in his unreleased income
    taxes, I promise you it's not as bad as what Donald J. Trump did to me and other girls in 1994.
    To see that my claims are not inconsistent with the kinds of misogyny with which Mr. Trump has been involved,
    the website www.TrumpingWomen.com has some useful links to various public sources. This article may also be
    helpfu I too: Outdoor Forums. justice-integritv.o rg/(*)(*)(*)/791-ken-sta rr-expla ins-h is-help-for-billionaire-pervert-jeffrey-
    epstein. Also, please read the horrible Palm Beach police report on Mr. Epstein here:
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    Palm Beach Police Reports: Jeffrey Epstein case
    case?skip app promo=true. Here is what Mr. Trump once said about Mr. Epstein:
    "I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy," Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of [convicted
    sex offender Jeffrey] Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of
    fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful wom~n as much as I do, and many ofthem are on
    the younger side. No doubt about it- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
    Vice News, January 29, 2016: https://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even-donald-trump-
    wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
    One helpful person, a prosecutor of Penn State's Coach Sandusky for child sex crimes, asked a friend why I did
    not begin by filing a police report in New York. The answer, honestly, is that it wasn't clear to me or my friends
    upfront what the proper order would be. Also: I have been terrified that billionaires like Mssrs. Trump and
    Epstein have the money and influence to corrupt policemen, politicians and even prosecutors.
    I do not believe that is so about you, Commissioner Bratton. Your NYPD bio suggests you are fearless and that
    you have true integrity: "A U.S. Army veteran of the Vietnam War, Commissioner Bratton began his career in
    1970 as a beat cop in the Boston Police Department {BPD), where he was cited with the department's top award
    for valor in 1976 for facing down a bank robber and rescuing a hostage."
    Therefore Mr. Bratton, I hereby respectfully request from you, your office and all your pertinent personnel:
    Swift, conscientious and proper investigation-- with no politics, cover-ups, foot-dragging or obstructions of
    justice for improper benefit of anyone- so as to bring appropriate criminal charges against Donald J. Trump and
    Jeffrey E. Epstein for raping me as a child, along with other young girls.
    I realize that my claims may sound wild. Yet, surely you and your colleagues realize by now that the legitimate
    claims against convicted or alleged sexual predators like Mr. Epstein, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Jared Fogle,
    Bill Cosby, Bill Clinton, abusive Archdiocesan priests in Boston, New York, Chicago and L.A., Coach Jerry Sandusky
    and other monsters went unheard for far too long.
    As I said under risk offederal perjury penalties in my April 26 filing, Mssrs. Trump and Epstein threatened me
    and my family, and I am in fear for my life right now. Twelve-year-old "Maria Doe," mentioned in my filing, went
    missing during 1994 and in the course of their threats to me, Mssrs. Trump and Epstein implied to me that she
    was murdered.
    To help prevent anything like that from happening to me, I recorded around an hour of (private, unreleased)
    video testimony in early February about my horrible experiences with Mssrs. Trump and Epstein. It is not in my
    personal possession; it is with people I trust, multiple copies. I do not appear in the video as I'd prefer because I
    was wearing a wig to help protect my safety and privacy, to make me less recognizable in public by
    Trump/Epstein agents or by media or stalkers. I now realize, however, that I won't be able to hide forever.
    Commissioner Bratton, I do not want to die and I do not want to be famous.
    But, I do want to do whatever is necessary to file proper criminal complaints against Mssrs. Trump and Epstein
    to expose their crimes. As mentioned above, I believe one attorney betrayed a recent location of mine to Mr.
    Trump, and I am in hiding right now in California to protect myself and others.
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    Therefore, Mr. Bratton, I respectfully request that you personally, as the Police Commissioner of New York,
    kindly please come to California with any necessary police or DA investigators to meet with me ASAP at a safe
    location.
    I will truthfully answer your questions, I will ask my friends to sh~w you the full videotape of my testimony and I
    am willing to take a lie detector test if Mssrs. Trump and Epstein will do so as well. I am willing to do basically
    anything you suggest which will not get me killed by Trump/Clinton/Epstein or their allies.
    Within a day or two, a friend of mine will make contact with your office to see if you are willing to help me.
    Mr. Bratton, please help me.
    Thank you for listening to me and taking me seriously.

    <signed> Katie johnson
     
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    Very smart. The nonsense always appears from both sides. Can't wait for the Hillary raping an intern lawsuit. The Really sad thing is the traction this kind of crap gets with the moronic voters on both sides of the political aisle. Maybe time for a voter IQ test!
     

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