Trump's "Bring Back U.S. Jobs" plan has not penetrated his own businesses

It's a little different for Ford to close down a plant and reopen it in another country than for Trump to order his ties from a factory in China instead of one in the U.S.

Besides, where did he criticize Ford? Didn't he just say he would talk them out of it?

 

Again, at that time, he was running his business in a market where outsourcing was already a reality, and it was the only option to remain competitive.

For 20 years prior, whenever he spoke about trade in general, from a macro perspective, he criticized free trade that established those conditions.

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I am voting against the criminal, hateful harridan, Hillary. Anyone would be better than her. She belongs in prison for her long history of crimes and coverups. Most recently, she has sold America for millions in slimy donations, foreign and domestic. She has sold out America, big time.

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Ohhh... the old "I know you are, but what am I?" routine. Very clever. Now go take the class.

 

He has suggested other members of NATO begin pulling their weight, that we stop footing the bill for Japan's defense while they rake us over the coals on trade, that we close down unnecessary military bases around the world.

Yep, I guess you missed it.

 

No, they didn't block anything.

They did exactly as I suggested, rendered the inversion less lucrative, and the company backed out on its own accord.

Do you understand this concept, that if we take actions to make certain things less lucrative, businesses won't do those things?

I got a good feeling that a light bulb just turned on in your head. Thanks for bringing this up.

 

Nice post.

But again, he chose. He wasn't forced to. Other businessmen don't outsource. He however chose to.

I agree, taxes are way too low for proper incentives. Blame the Reagan tax cuts. Prior there were incentives for expanding or hiring.

But this doesn't change the fact Trump made a choice to outsource to make money when he could have stayed American made and still be able to make a nice profit.

He is a scammer, nothing more.

 

I find it rather naive to think a man of his caliber, with his accomplishments, with his success, education, and experience is just a scammer, and nothing more.

When running a business, there is no "nice profit". Businesses are constantly spending every penny they bring in plus money they don't have, always pushing to expand, to innovate. There is no room to settle for a nice profit, or to throw away opportunity costs to buy American.

It's such weak thinking for you to believe that you "ought" to do the nice thing, when the very globalists who set those rules laugh at you all the way to the bank and put you out of business! With his success, Trump has become uniquely capable of taking them on.

A business here and there buying American and losing money for it does ZILCH for the problem. Trump, on the other hand, has risen to become our only hope.

 

And you think any of that makes sense....? Amazing!

You start trade wars by not adhering to your existing agreements, which is what Trump is proposing to do. If you make an agreement, you need to adhere to it. And as previously pointed out to you, this is all about labor cost and the biggest part of labor cost is wage costs. And there is no two ways about, wages overseas are lower, much lower, and that's not going to significantly change.

No we are the "victims" and "beneficiaries" of globalization, and globalization has been brought about because of new technologies. So are you proposing we go back to the Stone Age? It's not happening. Globalization is a fact of life, and it's not going away.

I don't think anyone with half a brain really thinks Trump will do what he says he will do, because his proposals are so preposterous and often inconsistent and contradictory.

 

Globalization is fine, but we can negotiate trade deals so that our labor values are not defeated in the move to globalization. That is what Trump is proposing. Conservatives say lower our own labor standards cuz market says, liberals say raise labor standards and just tax and redistribute the wealth from increased outsourcing to the increased pool of unemployed. Trump says we can rig the deals so that we keep our standards high and not lose jobs. Gradually, we will move to free trade, but the world's labor standards should rise to ours, and not ours lower to theirs.

 

Just take an economics class, and report back on what you learn.

Politically, Trump is the first option for President for a major party of our lifetimes that has not engaged in mass ideologist brain washing, ie, the only one not selling kool aid, for his entire career. But say what you must to justify your support for the banks, whom you know are behind every inch of corruption in Washington. But you support them. Because you are brainwashed and lack the proper education to reason your way out of it. This was purposely done to you through the contrived decline in educational standards. But it's still your responsibility to snap out of it. Take the class.

 

What caliber and success? It's been shown that he could have invested in the S&P 500 and made more money than he currently is.

Money and money alone isn't a good marker by which one should measure success. He inherited a big chunk.

 

Why does the right object to improving our standard of living by valuing, a historical work ethic from the Age of Iron, at fifteen dollars an hour as that form of minimum wage for that historical, work ethic.

Or, does the right prefer to devalue that work ethic, merely to help the rich get richer, faster.

 

Would he have been flying around on jets, banging super models with his money sitting in the S&P? Get real. Trump became famous for his ability to finish real estate projects on time and under budget. He gets (*)(*)(*)(*) done, and affords a lavish lifestyle, neither of which would be possible under your invest in the S&P nonsense.

He has made FAR MORE than that investment would have yielded. He's simply spent much of it on luxury. The fact that these media talking points are defeated soundly over and over, with zero acknowledgement from non Trump supporters who mindlessly parrot them, shows a learning deficiency that only reveals how desperate this country is to break free from the pathetic educational standards instituted by globalist through the public schools. You people need Trump more than anyone, but you support the people who have done this to you. It really is sad .

 

Because minimum wage will only devalue the currency in the long run. Smart people favor real, long term solutions over quick fix bandaids that are immediately corrected by inflation. Dumb people just think, "More money! What could possibly go wrong?"

We can't forget the economics principles we have learned. But you can learn them by enrolling yourself in an economics class, and then committing a little study time and work ethic to mastering the material. Then you can stop asking uninformed questions, and instead, mock the people who refuse to put that time and effort into learning economics, but want to discuss the topic as if they have anyway.

 

Please let me know where I supported the banks. Just because you have failed to document your claims about Trump's talking outsourcing thirty years ago does not give you the right to just make stuff up.

 

By opposing the only candidate who does not work for the banks, you support the banks.

It's really sad that your lack of education reduces you to substitute garbage where you are unable to contribute substantively.

Of course, I never said Trump said anything about "outsourcing", which did not enter mainstream lexicon until after that specific consequence of free trade became apparent in the 90s. If you disagree, then quote the post where I made such a claim.

Your argument is that you and millions of other Americans can refuse to become educated and ought to sacrifice American sovereignty to globalist bankers. I disagree. I think you should take an economics course. There is nothing more for us to discuss.

If there are any non Trump supporters who are educated about economics, you are the people I wish to debate. I am here to learn new things, not to have my fears about successful dumb down operations performed on the American public confirmed. There is no need for further confirmation.

Whatever educated people are left out there, people who understand supply and demand, scarcity, inflation, recognize that communist labor oppression is the backbone of globalism, please explain to me why you think this is okay ethically, or how you propose it is sustainable. If you do not qualify, I have no interest in eternally mocking your ignorance. I weep for you and what has been stolen from you by your government, your ability to function cognitively like a normal human being.

 

So you have been caught lying again. And I think you should be able to remember you own posts. After all you do seem to endlessly claim your own supperiority ( admittedly without any actual evidence). And if you don't want to use the word outsouring which is an admitted verbal shortcut then maybe you could find any Trump quote from thirty years ago talking about jobs moving overseas.

I alrady provided a,quote from Trump showing where he said oursourcing can create American jobs which of course you failed to discredit.

And of course if you really think Trump is independant of the banks then you know nothing at all about his history or maybe you are ignorant enough to think he self finances his projects. Might just for starters look at the loan his daddy helped him get to start his career or who go left holding the bag on some of the bankruptcies,of his businesses.

 

All I have heard, is appeals to the masses and social plans instead of capital plans, from the good capitalist of the right.

 

lol So you don't think that trade has anything to do with outsourcing. And you think banks like it when businesses file bankruptcy. You should drop out of school. Forget what I said about the class. Leave those seats open for people not so far gone.

 

Show me in the Constitution where this "capital plan" power is granted to the Executive branch. I am willing to learn about this so that I can discuss it with you, but you'll have to explain what you mean.

 

You need to cite sources for your currently, unsubstantiated, right wing propaganda. The last time I checked, wages are only about a quarter of all costs for fast food chains. That means, we would only see an increase of about ten to twenty-five cents. Simply hearsaying and simply soothsaying some things does not simply make them true. Even fiat money has more value than that.

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In any case, inflation is not a problem with supply side economics and our central bank.

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Mr. Trump claims to be a capitalist. Why no capital plans and only social plans? Shouldn't Mr. Trump have clear cut "business" plan to earn multibillion dollar bonuses for the People, to lower our tax burden?

The left already has a plan to put more money into more hands of hard working Persons, and help with social costs.

Some on the left value a historical work ethic from the Age of Iron at fifteen dollars an hour.

The right claims to subscribe to a "work or die" ethic from the Iron Age, with no safety net and no minimum wage.

All that does is help the rich get richer, at the expense of the poor getting poorer.

Just politics as usual, for the right.

 

This article will help you prove just how independant Trump is from the global banking industry.

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/03/20/trumpwallst0320/

Many more articles available to show just how closly Trump is and has been tied to the banking industry.