White People are not privileged, say the whites.

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  1. LokiGragg

    LokiGragg New Member

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    Except you've not demonstrated that "white privilege" exists in the first place. You've not adequately defined the term nor shown supporting evidence for that definition. Based on what you've claimed, there should also be "black privilege" and "asian privilege" and "latino privilege" and so on. You've demonstrated you don't understand the concept of in group preference.
     
  2. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Living within your means has always been the exception. IN ANY NEIGHBORHOD.

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    That you get to ducuss the blacks, shows white privilege. That you get to discuss whether their acttions will be rewarded, or condemned by the majority culture, proves white privilege. That you get to lord your elevated morals, proves white privilege. QED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
     
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    Wrong, the reason anyone can discuss anything is due to freedom of speech and free exchange of ideas. By your logic, any black person who discusses white people are proof of "black privilege". Actually, you'd also be hard pressed to demonstrate a majority culture, but that's a bit much considering the lack of education you exhibit.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why don't Blacks use their free speech, to discuss hampering access and prerogatives of whites?
     
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    Except they do. I'm not privy to the actual numbers, but there's a good amount that do, either via BLM, Uhuru movement, black panthers, or etc.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    White Privilege is what makes you able to rail against fairness, as persecution.
     
  7. LokiGragg

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    Again, you've not demonstrated what "white privilege" is, so no. See I appose racism, and right now, the SJW crowd are the ones exhibiting the worst kinds of racism, you know the ones that are legally binding and what not.
     
  8. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you disagree with structural impediments to success? How very BLM of you..
     
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    Fifty years ago, blacks could make the argument that they were not educated enough to write the laws necessary to end their plight - there is only one excuse for why blacks cannot write the laws, now. I highly recommend that blacks realize that they want to prove that they can organize peaceful community before white people do. I highly recommend black people respect their leaders desire to segregate themselves, and recognize the classes of their own race, and understand that white people recognize the classes in their race; and we expect you to understand that very few whites get the red carpet, and so the same for blacks - you better be pretty and gracious.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is not enough ink in the world, to legislate away majority culture agenda. We need to change hearts and minds. To that end, we must EVENTUALLY come up with concepts that don't frighten pale folks.

    That part of the right wings critique is undeniable.
     
  11. LokiGragg

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    Except you nor BLM have demonstrated structural impediments that still exist. Sure they did about 50 years ago, but not anymore. Now it is you who are wrong on this issue. Affirmative action for example is by definition racist. This along with schools segregating children and teaching white children that they are oppressors. The face of racism today is the SJW.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Institutional Racism Is Our Way of Life


    Endless studies and reports show that racism exists, whether we want to believe it or not.


    It’s probably time to dust off some of the profound, disturbing statistics on institutional racism in America that have been painstakingly chronicled by groups like the Sentencing Project, the ACLU, American Psychological Association, the Education Department’s Civil Rights office and many others.


    Because, apparently, we still don’t get it.


    In the wake of Baltimore, Ferguson, New York City and elsewhere, most of us are at least somewhat aware of the nature of police violence against the black community in urban settings.


    So maybe we should just start with institutional racism in schools, and work our way forward from there.
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the-edge/2015/05/06/institutional-racism-is-our-way-of-life
     
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    No conservatives value production and content of character. They demand proof of worth to society, they don't force people into classifications based on the color of their skin. White privilege makes assumptions about whites based on zero fact. It is inherently a racist idea.
     
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    That part of the liberal doctrine is fluff - the problems are not going to be solved by sitting down in a hall and having some discussion that you believe will solve the problem. With white people, we believe in the social contract theory; and although, there have been many corruptions in the past, the future applications of the theory are going to be much more secure - less corruption, because it will be better written, using modern technology.

    The discussion you are going to witness is going to be the request of a charter candidate for judicial review - if you do not have something in print, you are going to be at the table pretty much empty handed. There are black people who believe that black people can do it; I suggest you get with them, and help them. Otherwise, you will continue to be subject to White Man's superior ability to organize community.

    As bad as you got it here, any African, or Haitian, or Dominican, would gladly trade places with you; and they probably would be tickled to have you lead them out of their plight. If I were black that is what I would do. I am probably going to have to do it, any way, because as educated as black people are, they do not want to do it.
     
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    The author of the article fails to realize that the problems they site have more to do with poverty rates than race. Much like the OP. If you want to discuss poverty, fine, but let's not confuse the subjects.
     
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    While I generally agree with you, had BLM or Occupy made becoming a viable political party its goal, they would have relegated themselves null and void. That was a problem of the Tea Party.

    Genuine nonpartisan applicability is key.

    There will be a place for instilling these things into a party platform in good time.

    Timing is not to be rushed, or some things will require repeating.
     
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    So, White Privilege only exists for those that live outside their means? Are you saying that blacks living outside their means should get the same advantages as whites living within their means?

    That a person "get to discuss" something is an execution of their First Amendment rights to free speech. But the abridgement of those rights is not an example of white privilege. Unless your willing to admit the existence of Black Privilege. When Spike Lee complained that Clint Eastwood's movie Flags of our Fathers did not have enough blacks in it, was he exercising Black Privilege? When Don Imus was suspended for calling the Rutgers' women's basketball team "nappy headed hoes", was that an exercise of Black Privilege? A black person can call a white person a "cracka", and that is alright. It's just they way they talk, but if a white person calls a black person the "N" word all hell will break loose. A black person can even call a white person the "N" word, but the white person can not reciprocate. February was black history month. What month is white history month? If all you have is people living outside their means, and a right to discuss cultural differences then you have failed to prove it's existence.

    You need to do better or concede.
     
  18. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They hate us for our freedoms. We get to scream curses at each other. Land of the free, home of the depraved.
     
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    If you don't like it, leave. This isn't the USSR or East Germany. We don't keep the disgruntle from leaving. Our Constitution gives every man the same rights. The liberals want to limit those rights to the few that actually believes the same as they do. They figure that their voice will be right and just, if all other voices are silenced. They use catch phrases like Social Justice, and white privilege. But it all means the same thing. Silence anyone that disagrees. In your utopia, you get to cuss others, but they can't cuss you back. You dream of a level playing field that is tilted in your favor. Make it more level for some then for others, and you get to choose who is favored. That utopia can not exist in reality, so you live in a fantasy world. Don't click your heels three times, and don't call for Aunty Em. Because you like the fantasy world just fine, and you hate reality. You want all of us to live in your fantasy world. But many of us can't. We are rooted in reality. A reality that says that sometimes clouds blocks out the sun rise, and sometimes that hide the stars. We realize that the sun rises in the east. We don't necessarily have to see it to believe it. You do. So, if clouds hide the starts at night, you imagine the stars are there. You pretend the clouds don't exist.

    If you decide to return to reality, let us know. We will welcome you back. If you want to stayed nestled in your fantasy, then I know a few places that can help. A couple of shots of thiazine and reality becomes whatever you want it to be.
     
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    I may have a bunch of horrible things pent up to yell at ya'll. But that is what America is all about. Screaming at each other.
     
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    "White Privilege" is a myth. Indeed there is class privilege of course but the majority of whites aren't rich.....

    Look, I'm "white" (Sicilian) but I have dark olive skin so I get confused all the time for being Latino because I live in an area with a lot of Latino's and you know what? I don't see whites being treated any differently than Latino's - if anything Latino's are treated better than whites due to affirmative action to be honest.....

    If anyone is actually being oppressed it's white males of working age..
     
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    Really. Maybe that is what America is in that third world country you live in. But here it is about getting along. It is about mutual respect. I have lived in California twice. I have seen a lot of the state. I will take the east coast anytime, and twice on Sunday. My wife is from East LA, but I rescued her from that zootopia that you call reality. Now, she has returned to her sanity. It took me a while to get her racism under control, but she is far more tolerant now. Maybe you should spend some time back east. Then maybe you can see how utterly ridiculous your posts are.

    Good luck to you in the future.
     
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    I hope you didn't have to beat her more than LIGHTLY.
     
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    So you vilify whites to prove your point?
     
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    I'm a white, Christian, heterosexual male who grew up in a wealthy suburb. And I must be the biggest idiot on the planet because I didn't gain five minutes of privilege from that background. I'm just a regular guy trying to make my monthly payments without incurring late fees.
     

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