Trump didn't want Pence for Veep....was tricked into it?

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  1. cupAsoup

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    Who decides to vote for Trump now that pence is his VP? My answer is no one.
     
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    Unfortunately, I agree with you. Pence brings nothing to the table. Not even the evangelicals like Pence because he caved on that religious liberty thing. Pence is bland, dull, and just a really bad choice. But to be fair, Newt also stuck his foot in his mouth a couple of nights ago. I just think there had to be someone better than Pence.

    One of the biggest boosts I saw that came from a VP pick was when Clinton picked Gore in 1992. From that moment on, the race was over, because whatever one thinks of Gore, you could tell that Clinton/Gore was a formidable team; just by their youthful appearance and chemistry alone.

    To me, intuitively, Pence is a loser, and my fear is that he will make Trump a loser as well.
     
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    Then why would he call Bush out for 9-11, speak well of single payer health care, and go full moderate on Transgender bathrooms during a gop primary? None of those things should have helped him.

    This VP pick panders more to the social right than anything he did during the primary. And it comes after establishment campaign strategists have taken over.

    I am currently reconsidering, after seeing the response from leftists to my ending my support for Trump. The "Now don't you see (insert something demonstrably false)" because I said one thing they are not opposed to, and now they think I am buying their entire bundle of misinformation and cognitive dissonance is scary.

    It's like I just said I was lonely and felt out of place and am suddenly surrounded by drooling, wide eyed cult members. I think I'll reconsider.
     
  4. petef56

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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Pence only makes sense if it was the price Tr(oll)mp had to pay for GOP support in the GE.
     
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    Take your time and consider all of the angles.

    Yes, Tr(oll)mp says all kinds of bizarre and strange things because he lacks the ability to think anything through and figure out what message it sends. In essence he shoots from the lip and invariably misses the target.

    If that is what you want in the Oval office then by all means support him. The fallout will be expensive for hardworking American taxpayers.

    Knowing what kind of an unindicted criminal he actually is there is no way I would ever vote for the mental midget but that is just me. I support what is best for We the People whereas Tr(oll)mp is only out for what is best for him and him alone.
     
  7. Andrew Jackson

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    Before this weekend, Mike Pence was just another career politician with no political future.

    He seems to have doubled down on the "no political future" thing.
     
  8. MAYTAG

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    Do you actually think in metaphoric cliche? I mean, you said absolutely nothing with this post, except that single payer health care and not caring about transgenders using whatever bathroom they want is strange and bizarre, which you don't even believe.

    Then just cliche after cliche that excludes any actual thoughts on any issue. Can you take a step back, be objective, and see that your post is devoid of any substance? Are you capable of actual thinking? Or are you simply limited in your ability to express your thoughts? I'm curious.
     
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    I think you must have replied to the wrong post! :eekeyes:
     
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    You say "fallout", which is an allusion to the condition of materials being trapped in the atmosphere due to a nuclear blast. Is there a real life analog for "fallout" that you are referring to? You should type it out. In the old days, when people used metaphors, they would include some direction on what real thing they are substituting a metaphor for.

    But with the dumbing down of our educational system, where you all spend 13 years learning grammar and math that you will never comprehend beyond filling in the correct answer bubble, you seem able to write volumes and volumes of pure metaphor with no sense of a need for any real life analog.

    The world does not occur inside your head. It occurs out here with the rest of us. So tell us what you meant by "fallout", for starters.
     
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    Pence was the safe choice in regards to the convention and afterwards. Generally VP candidates are irrelevant anyway. There is no such thing as a VP candidate that gets votes for the ticket, only ones that lose votes. The MSM is finding it difficult to rant against Pence. Pence is boring. Boring is safe.

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    My guess is the answer is a very wordy slogan filled "no."
     
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    :roflol:


    :roflol::roflol:



    Hey Nostradamus, was Trump tricked into all the support he's getting from Christians on the Pence choice? :lol:
     
  13. Derideo_Te

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    There is more than one definition of the term fallout;

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fallout


    Just for the record here is EXACTLY what I did post in #56 above;

    Now why don't you tell me where you imagined that I posted anything whatsoever about "single payer" or "transgender" or even "bathrooms" for that matter?
     
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    Erick Erickson doesn't edit Redstate anymore--hasn't since around Christmas. He's started his own blog related to his radio show. Like most Trumpies, facts don't seem to matter to you.
     
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    Flynn is a poor public speaker. His speech at the convention was pretty lame--not as bad as Giuliani, but pretty bad.
     
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    I suspect John McCain would strongly disagree with your statement.
     
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    This is, purely conjecture.

    Consider this - With all the political intrigue involved in politics (back door deals, etc), Pence may just be the result of a deal between the Trump organization and the Evangelical right. One has to take into account that 80% of them support Trump. So in order to placate them, he was sort of forced to take Pence as his VP, despite the fact that he may have preferred Newt or Chris, both of them also have supporters within the Republican organization. So, to appease them, the Trump people leak out something to any of the the media, something to the effect that his decision for Pence may have been a mistake. It's a win-win. The religious right get their man in and Trump saves face.​


     
  18. Derideo_Te

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    Nothing could save that orange hued visage because of the ugliness that spews forth from it.

    There is supposed to be team work between the two of them going into the campaign but Tr(oll)mp is not a team player so Pence is going to have a whole lot of heavy lifting to do just to 'splain away the damaging things that are bound to happen between now and November.

    Is he up to the task?

    We shall see as the trainwreck unfolds in slow motion.
     
  19. tsuke

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    so redstate being never trump central is not true? :)
     

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