USA goods could compete with marginally under-priced products of low-wage nations

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  1. Ted

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    1+1=2 competition was made illegal decades ago because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism and how it would lower prices by 80%
     
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    If that were true, insurance plans would be the same and at the same price, co-pay, etc.

    They aren't.

    There are more regulations than there used to be. Insurance companies can't dump you when you get sick. There are regulations on preexisting conditions so people aren't shut out. Etc.

    Pretty much all other industrialized nations have single payer systems of some sort. The result is that everyone is covered. Plus, in many such countries those with bucks can buy insurance to cover stuff not covered by the national program. In the US, we're horrible in that dimension. And, after a bump from Obamacare, we're seeing a lot of backsliding as congress pushes the problem toward the states and the states simply ignore their poor. Pathetic!
     
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    if what was true?????????? You forgot to say????????

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    yes and we're pretty much the richest country on earth so should not be copying socialism in health care or any other industry. Have you ever heard of East/ West Germany??? Cuba/ Florida???

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    the less capitalism the more the poor are ignored. Ever heard of East West Germany? China before and after capitalism?
    What is the lesson?
     
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    What's with "East West Germany"?? Are you actually going to suggest that the post-WWII rule of East Germany has anything to do with this issue AT ALL??

    China? Again, you're going to need to be careful when attempting to compare anything going on in China to what is going on in the US - or Europe.
     
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    You have shown nothing that states Democrats DO NOT believe in capitalism??
     
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    Seems to me there's a lot of capitalism going on in the USA...including those evil liberals...
     
  7. Ted

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    we have what economists call a mixed economy, i.e, one with elements of capitalism and socialism. Evil liberals want more socialism even after it slowly starved 120 million to death and even after East/West Germany. Now do you understand?
     
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    If the US would adopt the metric system like the rest of the world uses it would be easier to export stuff.

    Many US firms that have adopted the metric system are quite successful in international trade.
     
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    any evidence that this is true????????? You should tell Trump. Its easier than what he has in mind.
     
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    OldManOnFire, USA’s chronic annual trade deficits drag upon our GDP and thus also drag upon our numbers of jobs. Anything that drags upon our numbers of jobs is to some extent also detrimental to our job wages’ purchasing powers.
    Certainly the portion of our annual trade deficits that are due to imports supporting our domestic production mitigate, (but they do not generally eliminate) trade deficits’ net detriments to their nation’s GDP. Unfortunately, USA’s annual trade deficits are not to a significantly proportion due to our importing production supporting products.

    The purpose of the unilateral trade policy described by Wikipedia’s article “Import Certificates” is not to eliminate importing of goods. It increases the cost of imports to USA purchasers of imported goods but unlike tariffs, regardless of how small is the increase of prices for imported goods, the policy will significantly reduce (if not entirely eliminate) USA’s chronic annual trade deficits of goods.

    It’s also an indirect but effective subsidy of USA exported goods and is expected to increase USA's GDP and certainly will not be a cause of our GDP decreasing.
    Any product that can be legally imported into the USA will continue to be imported if a USA purchaser is willing and able to pay for it.

    The proposal’s substantially market driven. The extent of imports increased prices to USA purchasers and the reduced prices of USA exports to foreign purchasers are substantially market rather than government determined. All of the policy’s direct net federal costs are passed onto the USA purchasers of imported goods.

    Respectfully, Supposn
     
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    The U.S. can't compete with slave labor. The country became great during a period of protectionism. Foreign trade only benefits the rich.
     
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    Nonsense. Moreover, most manufactured products for which measurements matter that are made in the USA are already metric. Or didn't you know that?
     
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    1) they are not slaves in China since the are free to take jobs and quit jobs. Do you understand.
    2) we do compete well(95% employment) but could compete much better if liberal taxes, unions, and deficits did not cripple our great corporations.
     
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    They're aren't slaves, they just work for pennies and hour.
     
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    sure but growing but leaps and bounds to the point where they now buy more cars and movie tickets than we do. Its the greatest economic miracle in human history. Do you understand? THey are now being unsold by Vietnam and many others.

    China switched from libsocialism to Republican capitalism and instantly eliminated 40% of the entire planet's poverty
     
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    On this subject Ted... you and I agree.....

    I am not in favour of tariffs to protect American industry......

    I favor taking the areas where America and Canada really have no rival........
    (English and French language film production).... .and turning this sector of the economy into
    a major engine of job creation.......

    A proposal for greater cooperation between the nations of Canada, Israel and Jordan......
    could be an effective opening gambit to get this started......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...jamin-netanyahu-lets-get-into-production.html
    P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu, let's get into the production of....
    .... semi reality science fiction film projects that are partly financed through alternative local currencies, and/or State currencies, and/or community currencies......... that address specific problems that human beings are facing now in 2015?
     
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    you mean to protect and cripple American industry.
     
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    pure absurd liberal lunacy of course. We don't need to run from rivals we need to crush them in fair competition so we have the best most competitive industries in the world and thus the best military in the world with which to insure our survival and peace on earth. Now do you understand?

    PS film production is for liberals and sissyies
     
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    You can't have fair competition when one country is paying ten to a hundred times more in labor.
     
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    every country has advantages. We have great infrastructue, great education, great universities, wealthy consumers, 200 years of capitalist experience, a mature financial system etc. The only problem we have is liberal policies that pay corporations to move off shore. Do you understand?
     
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    Yeah, I understand but you don't seem to. Our economy will die if we lose our manufacturing base. Everyone can't be an engineer or academic. We can't all mow each others yards and flip burgers. We need good paying jobs for the half of our population with two digit I.Q.s.
     
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    so do you oppose the liberal policies that ship our jobs off shore??

    dear, it was liberal taxes, unions, deficits and the liberal attack on our schools and families that screwed the middle and lower classes out of their jobs. And, it was 20 million liberal illegals that took the remaining jobs and drove down wages even for those jobs. Why not make liberalism illegal as our Founders intended to solve these problems??.
     
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    Yes...
     
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    Movie tickets, are you kidding ???

    Why go to a movie theater when you can watch a movie at home or at a friends home and be more comfortable ?

    There are many other businesses that will never see me as soon as Technology and the cost allows.
     
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    Liberals and sissies don't consider our relationship with Israel to be a major key to our
    own economic success


    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...jamin-netanyahu-lets-get-into-production.html
     

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